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I am expecting some Pakistan POF (Possibility of Firing) in .303 British. This is known as crap ammo with delayed ignition and many duds.
Would it be safe to pull the bullet and cordite and reload both in boxer primed brass? I have no intention to retain the paper wade over the cordite.
Yes, use the wad too, why not? It takes a second to push it in there.
I did that very thing recently when I had ammo I knew would likely be dud or at best hangfire. I didn't use the over powder wad and don't know if it made a difference, but the most were as much smack as new factory. There were a few that had less than stellar reaction, as in a bit less recoil. All worked just as intended after transferring the loads to new primed cartridges.
I wouldn't, not from any safety perspective, simply because cordite is known to burn hotter and be more erosive to the throat of your barrel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
I would pull the bullets and re use them (true MkVII spec bullets are hard/impossible to get) and use the cordite as emergency fire starter.
I doubt he's talking about that much ammo, really...not likely thousands. Personally, I did about 130 rds. It was lots of work...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Enfield
Fiddling with cordite ammo is more trouble than it's worth. Moreso than fiddling with Berdan primers.
Some of us enjoy fiddling.....
Not if you're as cash strapped as I am. It saves coin and that's what I have to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunray
What ever way you go as long as you get to shoot and have fun who cares how you achieve it and if it saves $'s then go for it shooting today has become a rather expensive pass time no matter who you are glad I do not own a Vickers or worst still a Dillion - Aerospace mini gun say 3 years loading rounds for 1-2 minutes of fun (@6000 Rounds/Min):surrender:
As a reloader for over 40 years I never had the desire to own full auto even though I had many opportunities. Shoot for 30 minutes and spend the remainder of the week reloading.
Yes, re-using the cordite and projectiles is quite workable. Just very,very time consuming!
From the looks of it I will not be reloading the POF .303.
I put down 40 rounds this morning without a hitch. Head stamp was from 1964 thru 66. A few hang fires and one rounds put out a cloud of white/gray smoke. My last ten rounds hit my 8" steel at 100 yards. Cleaned the heck out of the Long Branch upon return home.
A much better plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
Where did the other 30 rounds go Skip!
The first 30 was shot on paper. I was apprehensive shooting steel with .303 but there was no damage.
I remember the first time I shot steel plate as a kid with a .303, with ball of course...was just pig iron or boiler plate. It left huge craters and the lead was a round ball inside the divot. The brass jacket had welded itself to the steel. Very impressive for a 15 year old farmer with no experience...Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip
An old vid but still poignant about the dangers of shooting at steel me if I had that rifle the target would be at 800M not 250m what a waste of ammo no skill there to hit a target at 250 with that thing......
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...fj4_cUfopqzWBA
I agree, he almost got what he paid for. There was a comment elsewhere about a ricochet won't hurt you, no power... I beg to differ. I was taken off my feet by one and lots have been killed by them. There was a reason we had rules concerning shooting steel in the military, angles upward and not closer than 300m...there were more but I don't have RSOs on me right now. Unfortunately our range allows steel at 25 and some very heavy pistol cartridges use it up close. I move to the gallery and over the berm when they do that. When I was 15 I didn't know anything about anything though...
We used to shoot at 10" x 10" or so white painted armoured steel plates using No4's 5's and L1A1's at 100 yards after a 100 yard run-down armed with rifle, full webbing and 10 rounds each. We used to call it the 'falling plates match' where the plates would fall when hit. First team of 4 to knock the 10 plates down was the winner in a knockout contest. Teams from the whole Brigade were obliged to enter a team would take part including the major units (the Infantry Battalions) and minor units (small support stuff) The butt party had to wear steel helmets while under the butts. I don't remember any casualties.
Occasionally, some tosser in the butt party would put up a sheet of white painted hardboard. The bullets would go straight through without knocking it down! The BEST shot in the team would sit on his 10 rounds in order to a) relax for a few moments after the fast run-down in order that b) he could deliberate shoot at any plates that remain. He would then try to take out the remaining 'plate - that was never going to fall......... Believe me, even at the height of the complete falling plates match, the longer it went on, the more tired the teams became, running in full Far East kit, no shorts but long OG's, double water, weapons and ammo, trying to hit and put down these plates after a lot of running. Those armed with AR15's used to complain that their rifles wouldn't take the plates down like our L1's or the minor units No5's. The minor units armed with bolt actions had a longer time allowance of course
Anyone else remember 'The Falling Plates'. Did Canada do this match BAR? I used to love the match because I was young and ultra fit and being part of a minor units (the minor/small RAEME workshop detachment of the main Battalion) it was a nice little jolly........
We had the same thing for decades. They were set into a tunnel almost...on our ranges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler