Looking for info on this SMLE pattern 14.
What would be a fair value?I never see any for sale.
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Looking for info on this SMLE pattern 14.
What would be a fair value?I never see any for sale.
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Don't know about the value of the rifle per se, but that magazine on its own would fetch a tidy sum in the UK
You're going to have a hard time selling it for real money where you are. If you put it on CGN, the guys are still cheap but you may get the attention of the right guy out this end of the country, or in Ontario. You should be able to get between $700 and $1000 CDN for it... There will be others along with other opinions I should think. Remember, prices from other countries don't count here...nor does the status of market. Beautiful rifle by the way...very nice.
Hayboy is right regarding the Mag on its own, probably around £800 in the UK, as for the rifle I'd guess around the same price...... the last rifle and Mag in the UK I seen was around £1600 (IIRC) but it wasn't a .22 Short Rifle Mk111 or Patt 14 rifle.
As BR says, what its worth in one Country doesn't mean the same the price in another, nice rifle I'd give it a home...... not for the prices I quoted though.
I got lucky some time back as the seller was set up for sporting rifles and shotguns so was oblivious of what he had..... not the correct rifle but certainly a Hiscock Parker mag.
Geoff is quite right my Patt14 and Hiscock Parker mag cost me £1400 and that was a couple of years ago, good luck with your sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigduke6
And he lives in an area that you can't get them to part with money for anything...if they have any. On line sale is about the only game...too bad you guys can't get it over there. Interesting Geoff that the mag appears to you to be the greatest value and the rifle doesn't exceed it. There won't be too many here that will know what that mag is.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigduke6
If the OP places a WTS here, he might do well selling to the educated.
Jim I would say its the rarest of the two, its normally missing from a correct rifle, as they did away with the mag in 1920 (IIRC), so they are either bought as a single item or in most cases sits in a wrong rifle..... its a catch 22 I think, you buy the rifle then wait for the mag to come along or you buy the Mag and wait for the rifle...........
Like you say some don't have a clue what it is or the collector value....
So here one goes then. The mag is the value here...Quote:
Originally Posted by bigduke6
That rig would easily fetch $2500 in Australia. Very nice by the way.
Yeah, Mikes right. a MLE upgraded to no1 mk1 then patt 14 conversion sold here for around 2K recently on an online site. thought it was an absolute steal at 2K given the prices here
Here the values for trainers have only just caught up with their rarity, I suppose as more collectors become educated.... The Parker Hiscock magazine was only approved for use in the .22 Pattern 14 rifle (which became the Patt 14 No1 when the Pattern 14 No2 was introduced) and the .22RF MkIII.
When the Pattern 14 No2 rifle was introduced 5 months after the PH magazine, the LoC entry states the magazine was not retained on the conversion... The same entry states the rifle previously named the Pattern 14 was to be the pattern 14 No1.
I still have found no official notification the PH magazine was to be used in the Pattern 14 No2, and there is no instruction for the mods to the rifle to take the magazine.
My Patt14 no1 has distinct marks in the foreend from using the PH mag, as well as a very worn boltway from the extra upward thrust the mechanism of the magazine put on it. Easy to tell if it ever had one fitted and used....
In Aust the mag easily pulls a grand, the rifles are now overtaking that figure.... I think you should be able to expect 2K for that combination anywhere in the world even though the No2 out numbered the No1 by four to one.
It's interesting that there seems to be no official instruction to mod the Pattern 14 No2 rifle as I am lucky enough to own examples of both the No1 & No2 rifle and both have had the front of the bolt head face chamfered to allow the use of the Parker Hiscock magazine. The Pattern 14 No2 is all matching with the serial number J52 the barrel is marked DP but is sleeved with AGP PARKER RIFLED at the muzzle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Son