.22 Bolt.

Just bought this .22 Bolt. I think it is for a No7 but not sure,

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Am I right in thinking it is for a No7?

If it's the one that's been on Naturabuy for a while; I think you'll find it's for a .22 No5 trials rifle. I had a look at that and after searching a bit in Skennerton's book and posting on this sight, that's what we came up with.
Now you've got to find one of the 105 built and you'll be a happy bunny! Does it have any numbers on it?
It's certainly interesting to find out how it ended up in France

It looks a British No 7 .22 trainer bolt , missing the left hand side extractor . The only other bolt that looks close would be the British No 8 bolt what is the length of the bolt head ?

It's no where near the No8 bolt; (I have two No8's) Look at page 297 in Skennerton's "The Lee Enfield" book.
It has a photo of the .22 No5 trials, No7 and No8 bolt's compared. The chamfer on the front of the bolt head is the obvious difference.

Interesting.
I do happen to know where one of the N°5 .22s is, and it is not too far from me in France.
Still with matching N° mag,
My friend went into Fultons one day years ago and they had one or two in the back, got them out and one had his N° 5 mag, so they swaped them over.
He know I want to buy it, but he is saving it till he retires and needs the money.

Maybe someone who has one of each of these rifles ought to write a short paper with important dimensions/lengths so that it is recorded for posterity. As it is we STILL don't know what this bolt is from do we?

If the poster will measure the bolt head it would help a great deal as to what it goes to. The No. 7 is 2 3/16'' in length more or less the No.8 1s 1 3/8'' more or less .

If the poster will measure the bolt head it would help a great deal as to what it goes to. The No. 7 is 2 3/16'' in length more or less the No.8 1s 1 3/8'' more or less . It looks like there is a left side extractor which is retained with a screw . The No. 8 doesn't use 2 extractors and there is no slot cut for the second extractor .

That second 'extractor' on the UK No7 isn't really an extractor as such, even though someone in their wisdom decided to call it one. It doesn't extract anything! All it is, is a supporting arm thinggy that ensured that the spent case remains against the bolt face until it's time for the case to strike the ejector. The case strikes the ejector, simultaneously the support thinggy lets go, case swings about the opposite rim and out onto the floor. If you remove that support thinggy, the case lands on top of the next round in the mag - or somewhere else downwards and you've got the makings of a jamb. No need for this guff on the No8 because you have a loading plate with an inbuilt ejector

I was thinking that at some point I might build a .22 on a N°4.
Some bits and pieces you do not see all the time, Get them when you can,
I can always sell it on,
There is a longBranch in 303s up for sale with a Parker Hale PH5B sight and a few other bits that i could use in another arm.
The Barrel I could keep justincase my other 303s gets worn out.

Any one know of a source for one, Also need the 22 magazine.:)

Here are the measurements of the different .22 trainer bolt heads on the #4 action..
Listed are two of the No.5 trials rifles and they are both different. List is right to left.
#5-- 2.328 in.
#5(A)-- 1.997 in.
#7-- 2.166 in. (this is the British #7 and not the Canadian which has the normal # 4 bolt body but just a different bolt head.
#8 -- 1.35 in.
#9-- regular bolt body length and .22 bolt head
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thanks Warren got your email reply sent.

I can see why there are standard bolts and diffrent bolt heads,
and others cut bolts and a new much longer head,
because it dependss if a N°4MK1 or MK1* was used,
the N°8 though is a little diffrent, am I right?

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for those interested this was my email to Warren.

length is 2.161 inch? 54.90mm.

on your pic I can see a stamp on the lug that you engague on the guide rail,

the uk N°7, mine has a crossed swords there and on the other side is a broad arrow,

the bolt will fit a N°4 mk 1 fazackerly, not the Long branch 1*.

the bolt handle has a serial N° it is cross sawards 0060S88 or the ther way up, as I I think it should be,

BS0900 then the cross swards grips at top,

Nice rifles Warren...

BS0900 is a Brit No7 serial number. Ron

thanks, I was thinking it was a brit N°7,
I wonder where the rest of it is.

Thread 12; the sup[port arm thinggy (or what they call the auxiliary extractor in the old RAF parts list) should be easy to make from a suitable length of spring steel. Because it only has to spring in and out for the width of the .22" rim and then, only flex just forwards of the retaining screw point. As I recall, the was an RAF AP memo that came out about this thing during the 70's, all to do with this thing bending or breaking when the rifle was single shot loaded without the magazine fitted and as such the broken end could fire the round during the chambering process. More to it than that of course. But a simple thing to make. The problem might be finding one to copy!

Peter I would love to have one auxiliary extractor spring . If anyone has one, I would be interested in purchasing it .

So it's for a No7. It appears I was mistaken; having only the photo go on. Very pleased that it's been identified properly.
Nice to see the photo from Warren, great collection you have there.