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I have this 1906 dated SA 03 over on the CMP for sale forum. No one seems interested in it. I think the rifle is original rifle with what I believe to be original 1907 dated sling and butt stock WES stamp, R in the cutoff, 10 06 barrel serial 293682. very little finish left I have reduced it down to 1600 am I way off on the value of this rifle here are pics
Have you asked on the 1903 forum on the CSP web site? I would try that.
Sure is a nice looking grouping of equipment and ordnance. A few squares back I'd be tripping over myself for it. Now I just can't afford this stuff. Very nice. Put up a WTS here and see?
I noticed that the W.E.S. in a rectangle box is listed as being used in 1917-1918. Your stock is a "no bolt" stock (without stock bolts) which is quite rare. The first stock bolt was added in 1908 and the second stock bolt in 1917. Would the W.E.S. cartouche have been used on a very early rifle ?
Also check your stock inletting, it should be inletted for the early open bottom rear sight base like my photosAttachment 81792Attachment 81793Attachment 81794Attachment 81795
As a matter of fact it was. I have a (very) original 78180, modified to 1906 standards with a WES no-bolt stock and I have seen others. John Beard originally said that the WES stamp dated to the WWI period, but he said he has since changed his mind.
M903 prices have been awfully "soft", lately, even extending to nicer rifles.
here are pictures of the inside of the stock
Is that a pine needle in the stock? Where'd that rifle live...Ft Lewis?
I don't know I did noy notice it when I had it apart maybe a scratch or gouge
It looks like a pine needle, it would have fallen out.
Technically, it's a fir needle. Pine needles are longer and resemble a skinny wishbone and Ft. Lewis has a lot pines around East-gate Road.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
the guy I got it from was in Montana I figured the notches on the hand guard were for dead deer not huns. so it probably was a pine needle. I kind of got the feeling that someone brought this rifle home around 1908 that's why it it has never been missed with
Point taken...Quote:
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You got that right...Quote:
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That's the most sensible thing to believe.Quote:
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Probably, nice rifle.Quote:
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Yea, I like it
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I can't find it on the CMP Forum.
I took it off the CMP forum because I was not getting any interest in it. And put it on gun broker. I do not like selling it but I am getting older and my wife does not want to mess with my collection if I kick the bucket. However; We agreed I would keep one low number and one high number and one garand. the problem is I have one other low number a early rock island with a AV 18 barrel and a PODD stamp on the stock. that I want to keep. I know it does not make much sense to keep the mix master and get rid of the really rare collectable rifle but I love that Rock go figure
Nice rifle ... and I am surprised at no nibbles.Quote:
Originally Posted by rice 123
Like you, I have also come to the conclusion that maybe I should thin my accumulation that I have been gathering since 1971. When I told my son I will probably start thinning the herd and he hit the roof. He said that this was HIS inheritance. He then sarcastically said "Well, what if I take you out?"
"Well then," said I " your mom inherits them and sells them for cash and you won't get a sniff."
End of discussion :lol:
if my kids got them they would go to the pawn shop for pennies on the dollar probably before the funeral
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I got an email that the rear sight was wrong that it is a later one. I do not think so, Could someone knowledgeable look at the pics and give me an opinion is the rear sight is correct
I wouldn't worry about it. There's still a couple guys I'm expecting to see here to give you clear info, that haven't shown up. They won't PM you, they'll speak in clear...because they know for sure.Quote:
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Can you get a clear picture of your rear sight. Straight down from above ... no angle, side or oblique pictures.
That should clear up any questions.
here are pics I am not very good with a camera
Looking at Brophy's book, your sight appears to be an early sight for the 30.06 but I am no expert. Maybe John Beard or RTL could chime in.
Strange, your drift slide does appear to be cut off on the bottom (no peephole).
Your knurled knobs (say that 5 times fast without sounding perverted) appear to be the early version also.
BEAR
Right, it's a huge inverted "V" now.Quote:
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Your rear sight Leaf was made at Springfield Armory and is correct for that rifle. An aperture sight slide is easy to find, but your rifle probably had an early one with the Platinm Line on it. They're out there.
Left is the Springfield and right is Rock island (note the square corner on the Rock Island slide) both rifles have earlyAttachment 81878Attachment 81879 1907 dated barrels
I look at the 7's where I believe the leg of the RIA Seven is straight and that of the SA Seven is bent or curved.
I sure do like those early 03's!
Just mixed parts and early pre or WW1 barrels not worth much but nice to look at !
I have fired some of them with sub caliber adopters at pistol rangesAttachment 81887Attachment 81888Attachment 81889
That would be perfect...Quote:
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1903 Prices "Soft? I've not noticed that....or maybe my wallet is just still empty. It seems some people are still asking $1500+ for average or even mix-master rifles. Have noticed a few so-called National Match rifles at rather low prices, but when looking at the photos, cannot see that they are truly NM rifles. Oh well. I only need a 1934 rifle to finish my collection.Quote:
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Maybe I should say that the "upper level" rifles are soft. The "generic" shooters are in the $600-650 range, about $100 over where they were a few years back.
I was looking at the sear, would a rifle from that period have a hole in it, just from a learning perspective.