I would like to bring to your attention the following dire crime:
Extremely Scarce Cased WW2 German ERMA K98 .22 Conversion Kit
Deactivated !!!!!!:yikes::yikes::yikes::runaway::runaway::bash ::bash:
Request Rejected
A rare, complete and hugely collectable thing, chopped, who would do such an insane thing!!!:nono::nono::nono::nono:
Click on the very apt request rejected link and look at deactivated weapons!
Others there are just as bad, a WW1 13mm anti tank rifle...sad.
What makes it even more sad is the fact that there's no need to dewat one of those a/tk rifles because it's exempt from the firearm legislation now!
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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Quite Peter, I find the .22 kit deac hatchet job just exasperating!
I don't why some people don't just ask for advice first before reaching for the angle grinder and mig welder.
I don't have an issue with deacs in general, but it really grinds my gears and makes steam come out of my ears when people deactivate such rare items as these.
I was only talking to someone a few weeks ago who had collected a whole set of extras for his K98's over the years, he had been looking for a rare complete .22 conversion kit for ages .. this will make him throw up his arms in horror!
It's depressing what some people will do to make a profit!
Should be drummed out of the gun trade...
To be fair to the dealer concerned, it may not necessarily be the dealer selling it who did the deac or had it done. He may simply have received it in that state?
The only firearm that should be deactivated is one that is beyond repair and a danger is ever shot.
To deactivate a gun is NUTS.
Countless Thompson's, Sten's and Brens have been deactivated in Canada to what end? No registered owner of a FA has EVER committed a crime with one...EVER.
There have been crimes committed with illegally owned FA's but the honest gun owner being persecuted for owning one has not had any effect on the morons who smuggle them into our country.
Rant over.
Comment meant for another thread went astray. Apologies.
One reason that some guns in certain classes of firearms are deactivated in the U.K. is so that they can be legally sold within the U.K. on the open market. Clearly the example in post 1 is not one of these.
That's my impression of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying10uk
Some of the deacs that are seen in the U.K. appear almost new having been in storage for 70+ years and in some cases look to not even be refurbished examples rather to be straight from the factory. This may be more of a case with weapons from Eastern Europe.
I certainly know the excuse the "authorities" use however it is beyond flawed and I think most govt's are genuinely afraid of a armed public, no other reason. Over the years I have known many FA owners who owned everything from a Lewis to several Ma Deuces and everything else you can imagine. I have a friend that owns two tanks, the main gun had to be deactivated...for what reason, do the "authorities" think you can buy 105's or what ever at you local Boots or Rexall Drug store?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying10uk
Public safety is a OXYMORON !
Well, the casings can be had and I'd take it as a personal challenge to create projectiles...BP filler I should think. I can rejuvenate the primer tube with flash or 4F and use a shotgun primer to fire it... Exactly the reasons I didn't buy a 60mm mortar that was at auction.Quote:
Originally Posted by enfield303t
But yes, unless you pull the dog's teeth, you can't beat him without getting bitten...then you can do what you want.
Strangely, I believe that despite the very strict U.K. gun laws, it may be possible and legal, under certain circumstances, for a private citizen to own a self propelled gun or main battle tank with a live gun. I don't know the ins and outs of how this may be possible or under what restrictions/conditions would be imposed or even if I'm correct in this matter. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the U.K. laws/regulations could correct or confirm, please?
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Originally Posted by Flying10uk
Yep, quite legal on Sec1 F10, single shot firearm with a barrel length exceeding 12" and and overall length more than 24", these pre conditions are met by default!
But absolutely, additional conditions will be attributed to the item FAC holders certificate, something like .... The 75 mm gun S/N ***** must only be used with blank ammunition and only at approved events etc etc
This is what happens if you don't live in a free country.
I understand english law, however I thought you could do all the paperwork and have them anyway. I know some things like hand guns are very hard if not impossible, but with the rifles....at least they will be taken care of and not bubba-ed.
The record in the wild and woolly US is NEARLY as good as Canada's in this respect. Since 1934, there has been ONE crime committed with an NFA restricted firearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by enfield303t
It was a police officer who came home and decided to open up with his personally owned NFA-registered SMG on his wife's lover (he walked in on them at exactly the WRONG time).
Understandable, but a crime, nonetheless.