SHTLE III

I posted the WS mark of this rifle previously and no one really knew what it was. Now that I have the rifle in hand there are many more markings to post. Looks like it was a FTR but the nosecap, forestock, bolt, rear sight, and receiver are all matching. Has Mag cutoff. Brass Butt Plate. Looks to be original stock disc. A couple marks that repeat themselves are W, C, and Broad Arrow. Any information would be appreciated.

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The very small marks are all inspection marks and have nothing to do with the one on the barrel ring. Neat stock disc markings...

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

The very small marks are all inspection marks and have nothing to do with the one on the barrel ring. Neat stock disc markings...

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I didn't think they did I was just hoping they could help tell the story of this rifle.

The ones that tell more are the stock markings and the rebuild stamps. Interesting the marking on the stock socket has been embellished at a point...right side.

Factory Repair in India with a mixture of original British and Indian parts.

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Originally Posted by Brian Dick

Factory Repair in India with a mixture of original British and Indian parts.

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The FR With Broad Arrow over I on left band I assume means FTR India 1939. What about the FR on the stock in front of the L Broad Arrow over S and A in a circle?

Barrel Matches as well

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Asterisk normally means 'cut or rusty barrel'

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Originally Posted by Mk VII

Asterisk normally means 'cut or rusty barrel'

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If it was rusty they did a great job of cleaning it up. It doesn't seem to be cut.

What I just read was the asterisk stopped being used in the 1920s to indicate rust in the bore. By the 1930s it was an inspection mark but was not a mark of rust. Can anyone else confirm this.

Somehow I left out that the stock is matching at the forestock as well.

The markings on the stock forward of the brass marking disk are also Indian.

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Originally Posted by Brian Dick

The markings on the stock forward of the brass marking disk are also Indian.

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Yes I found out on gunboards that the LSA is actually ISA. Thank you. Seems though that it survives Indian Service mostly original and intact. Is that correct? Does anyone know how to read the stock disc? Is it English?

Yes...as near as I can tell, it says "PTE." with a series of letters that I can't make out, then a string of numbers. "Pte." is the standard contraction in the British and commonwealth forces for "Private". In this case, it's a bit of grafitti that I'll leave for others to speculate on.

To be clear...it's not an official marking of any kind.

Has SC ~ Short coned (just behind the rear sight) also disc looks like Pte. A. Attwood 1969 to me so the disc is irrelevant, the W & S are different fonts so I am thinking it has a worn cord (W) and the S is sold out of service as if you look at the muzzle pic (maybe the angle) the right side looks worn.
The S on the butt may mean small butt fitted I thought they were marked in a different spot.
Thats my take on it and if wrong stand to be corrected.

Any date stamps on the barrel re-inforce they may be under the bottom fore wood

About the 'S'... On the underside of the butt like that, it means the stock bolt has the split washer. A date stamp on the barrel, in this case, would be the installation date. It's an LSA barrel...they didn't date them.

Still confused.... who manufactured the reciever? My phone doesnt want to display the images properly, so im sure i missed something

Crown G.R. on Barrel with Flags. Then other side has the Proof Mark and serial. There looks to be another Crown mark with G.R. and another W S in different font. Here is a blown up pic.

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Also there is a SC HV marking on the barrel if that means anything.

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Originally Posted by capt14k

Crown G.R. on Barrel with Flags. Then other side has the Proof Mark and serial. There looks to be another Crown mark with G.R. and another W S in different font. Here is a blown up pic.

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Also there is a SC HV marking on the barrel if that means anything.

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Short cone, high velocity. Holdover from mk7 ammo introduction

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Originally Posted by BushyFromOz

Short cone, high velocity. Holdover from mk7 ammo introduction

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Thank you.

Enfield is the manufacturer. SC = Small Cone.

A bit more on the SC = Small cone of the cartridge chamber; diameter increased by .002- inch, for Mk VII ball. Factory rather than armourers mark, introduced List of Changes 21209.
Source The Broad Arrow - Skennerton - Page 79

Looks honest and original, plus it didn't get screwed through the forend!