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I was searching for Suppressed WW2 Military Firearms and I came across these Bolt Actions which look like the same and a Semi-Auto one. I did see British on one and Springfield Armory on the other. I do see 2 different types of magazines. Why would there be a Bolt Action while the Carbine was already a proven Semi-auto and not just go with it ? Just Curious as I love to see anything interesting used in WW2. The 4th Picture looks different than the others to me and didn't see anything about it.
DeLisle carbines but pic 4 looks like a repro based on a No4 rifle body. DeLisle....., one of those weapons that have found a niche in the legends and folklore of weapon/firearms history. Good but no cigar..........
Well there it is...Looks like these didn't make the cut.... maybe they were used for special circumstances.
Simple about the M1 carbine Frank...they'd still be noisy. The bullet is over sonic too. The .45 is a way better killer for the job at the ranges that are realistic...which is about 25 yds. These aren't used at any distance. Don't let the crap about someone hitting a duck at 400 yds during the first trials influence you...
MP5 makes a far better canned weapon now. That was technology at the time.
I figured the one which looks to have a .45 Magazine on it since they had a abundance of it would of well done it's job in special circumstances like a very close up SF situation like you mentioned and I understand that it should of done its job at 25 yds. But still trying to find why and what they were specifically made for. I finally found a site i just started reading about the French Resistance used these.
Lots of people used them on a limited basis. Peter has described them in detail a couple years back as he had them in hand in Warminster or Hythe or some such...
Jim seems I'm late to the party and going to have to search for it. Did you see that .45 one ? That guy had someone make One for him that looked exactly like the one I posted. The sound of the round hitting the plate at 50 yds was SO much louder than the suppressed firearm. He said they were
Much more quieter than his suppressed .22.
The Delisle used a M-1911 .45 ACP mag and ammo . .45 ACP is sub-sonic so it is very quiet . The rifle dumps the empties into a void by the magazine , so it leave no evidence when used. I have put about 400 rounds through mine . With GI 45 ammo it is not too accurate past 25 yards . With a heavier and faster handload it is good out to 50 yards . The main battle use was by the British in the pacific later in the war .
Here's another one that I'm working on for my page of early Suppressed Weapons. I'm not a buff on everything they used other than what I usually see them with. I really love the Liberator and the MK ll and some others, but this one here looks very interesting. I just need to track it down.
Frank post #9 its not suppressed its a Smoke Discharger, type in SMLE smoke discharger in google.
As for your first post, the second picture is a repro De Lisle, the magazine adapter I've used a few times, pic 3 could be the real deal but would need better pics, pic 4 as Peter says is a No4 and pic 5 is a repro, its a fake can and was built a Member on this site.
Thanks Duke...I just type in Early WW2 Suppressed Pistols and it popped up without any caption that's why I posted here so yall experts can help me out. Y'all know WAY more than I do. I did look into each one that Peter and Jim gave me info on and got some Really Great information. Duke would you know the model # or just type in what you wrote it is. It something I would love to read about.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigduke6
I've had the occasion I guess you could call it to shoot one a considerable amount... At 60 yds we had a steel gong and the report of the bullet striking was like a four pound hammer. The bullet then howled away to some far off land. So much for them vaporizing like some think. Like the M3A1 . the bullets hitting anything give a substantial smack. When I shot hollow point jackets, they hissed loudly heading out. Mine was drilled and tapped for a optic, now red dot sights would be perfection. Low light use with ease. That way you can shoot lizards in your yard at night and not disturb the neighbors.
I wonder why noone mentioned the Welrod pistol? I have one, in case pictures are needed..
Almost an anomaly...very seldom seen. I'd never bother building one anyway when so many other platforms are available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Promo
Anyway, let's have a look at yours? Love to see it in detail if you would?
Some detailed pictures of the innards would be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Promo
The Welrod lives on today in the Brugger & Thomet VP9 “Veterinary Pistol.” B Forgotten Weapons
good fun to shoot
The other WW2 generation UK silenced pistol was the "sleeve gun".. a .32 cylindrical single shot weapon related to the Welrod (both were produced by SOE) which was designed to be concealed up the sleeve of a jacket. The trigger mechanism was at the front of the weapon and it was designed to be pressed up against the victim. This used rubber wipers and was, like the WELROD, very quiet!
There was also of course a silenced version of the STEN sub machine gun..
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Which one do you have... the .32 or the 9mm? I presume it is one of the pistols supplied to the resistance in Europe..?Quote:
Originally Posted by Promo
The US produced some in 9mm and a few in .45 ACP for trials.. it is not known how many are still in captivity..! The standard US silenced pistol was built on a .22 Colt Woodsman; it is not as quiet as a Welrod...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OLEYHdvIYwQuote:
Originally Posted by bombdoc
We call the technique of pressing the muzzle against the victim a "contact shot." It's a very quiet way to shoot without a suppressor. The support hand retains the slide of a Browning tipping lock type pistol and manually cycles it after a shot is fired.