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"Buy the gun, not the story"
But When the story goes with the gun.... Provenance... ?
Incredible amount of effort put forth by this seller.
I read every word, looked at every picture.
Wow !
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/667358986
Interested in your thoughts..
Charlie-Painter777
Could you imagine trying to explain this 20-30 years from now? I love stories and history but sometimes it complicates things. I buy because regardless of the story, the item sells itself if it's good ... nothing like a no 4T, lottery M1D, or an M41/b etc... they have a voice on their own. It might be hogwash but that's how I think as a collector with the future in mind. Andy
I hear you Andy,
But imagine how many hours of work the seller has put in. At minimum wage.......... I'd hate to wonder what the Reserve Price could be if he's trying to recoup his time!
Thx
Charlie-P777
I'd like to copy that display chest, but more rustic.
Charlie-P777
They have had this on gunbroker for well over a year now, they have been trying to get somewhere in the $13,000-$15,000 range for this group without much luck. I can pretty much guarantee the reserve is close to that $13,000 they want
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/641159959
Highest it has ever been bid is $3,000 http://www.gunbroker.com/All/Complet...rame=1&Sort=13
They need to move on and take it to auction like RIA to get a real value of what people may pay, pretty sure it ain't $15,000!!
Interesting that the flip is just marked S. Thought those were only used in early IBM production?
Nice case. He spent some extra fees listing all those pictues.
It's a ridiculous amount of story to go with a firearm though. Two buyers from now it will all be forgotten.
Hell I read it yesterday and have already forgot the story... and the specs on the carbine.
Will have to sift thru the whole mess to see the gun again.
:confused: Wonder what my time is worth $
Nice case, agreed, but like a custom home; a hard sell... split up might be a quick escape.. the chest is a personal thing (worth more to yourself than anyone). Now if it was stalin's or patton's chest?? Eh, much different story.
I appreciate this mans service, along with his brothers.
But included in this 'offerings' are copies of the correspondence between the gun seller and the brother of the carbines owner, even includes the post office receipts for postage (?) and pictures.. etc and the celebration events the brothers company put on for OK City festival.
I'll admit I just can't see through the smoke and mirrors well enough to concentrate on the carbine.
Just reading the description was more effort than I put in to my senior year of High school.
As Cali201 in post #5 stated, if your looking for ~$13,000 to ~$15,000, I have to wonder what Audie Murphys' carbine is worth?
That might be an idea...... If a museum donation can be used as a tax credit, maybe he could pitch it to one. He does have the display case ready.
Cheers,
Charlie-Painter777
P.S. Custom built home? I worked on them for over 35 years. Seen some incredible money spent on 'personal taste' !!
I got burned out on trying to identify buttplates a long time ago, but isn't that one a Winchester? Now sift through 242 pictures and try finding it. :super: - Bob
Think the same seller has a similar cased M1A1 for sale. It now has a crack in the recoil plate area but I swear it didn't have that huge crack when first listed many moons ago. A few other anomalies as well. Also, the opening bid is way lower than I remember but has a reserve.
IBM Buttplate - Reverse sifting, Pic 203 and 204. Appreciate someone capturing the veteran's story. That and the documentation are great, but not sure how a late war IBM would ever get anywhere close to 10k+. Never know, I guess. A lot of that seller's items have the same kind of presentation and documentation. Would think it adds something to the price but not 7k+.
The seller went to great lengths to promote this collection. Much more than a carbine. My problem is TMI as noted above. Wonderful presentation and collection which is perfect for a museum display, not so much for my limited safe space. Would be a shame to separate the historical pics and documentation from the carbine so it is like you are taking on a "caretaker" responsibility for the whole collection if you buy it.
Refinished 'put-together' with beat-up stock. $750.