I'm helping someone out researching a 1969 No.4 7.62 CONV. The rifle is in very good condition, all complete. Any idea of a ballpark value currently in the US? Will try and post a photo later.
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I'm helping someone out researching a 1969 No.4 7.62 CONV. The rifle is in very good condition, all complete. Any idea of a ballpark value currently in the US? Will try and post a photo later.
Three years ago I sold Canadian conversion for $1200.
If you type "Joe Salter" into the search box, you will find a thread called "Joe Salter does it again.." (Sorry, I don't know how to link past threads). There is quite a bit of information in this thread regarding the XL39. He was asking $5900 for his.
I casually searched a couple of past auction catalogs from the major US auctioneers (poulins, james Julia, rock island), and found prices all over the map. A couple of Envoys sold for 2,700 to 3,200. A few L39's went for around $1200 to $1800 dollars. There was one Faz no4 with PF serial number converted to 7.62 by unknown persons. Fitted with a PH5C sight and real enfield 7.62 mag. That sold for $900.
In the past 2 years, I have also seen two DCRA conversions sell for approximately $2000.
All US prices.
Hope this helps
Thanks most kindly. I thought the prices would be all over the place. I have the opportunity to pick the rifle up for $1300 (whoops, did a typo), so I'd better jump at it. Should I be worried about the stock splice shown in the photo? Looks like it was done at the time of manufacture, but what do I know?
I wouldn't worry about the stock repair. It looks like an arsenal repair. At the price it's wearing, that is easily the sum of the parts, so I think it would be a steal. Enjoy!
Is the Envoy style forend serial numbered to the rifle? I thought that all of the original 1969 production No.4 7.62 CONV rifles came from the RSAF stocked identically to the L39A1 but could be wrong. It was the commercial sales forerunner of the Envoy. Many also wound up in the hands of the military shooting clubs.
Not sure, Brian, still trying to find out if the bolt matches! I did find this on a prior thread here " All 7.62mm Conv rifles had Factory numbered 7.62mm Magazines and fitted with Target Sights. 1969 batch were dispatched to the Army Rifle Association on the 11/04/1969.". Pity these rifles are not considered curio and relics.
Can someone confirm that the serial number should be on the bolt handle? Does anyone have a photo of the serial number on the bolt handle of this type of rifle? This is what was just emailed to me:
Attachment 87911
The bolt head is stamped "T19" and is a "0" size, for what it is worth.
Just got a better photo - bolt serial does match.
The "19T" refers to the re-proofing to 19 tons per square inch for the new 7.62mm cartridge. The "0" on the bolt head is one of the four standard bolt head sizes.
You'd better grab it before it's gone!
The "0" is the smallest of the series of bolt heads then 1 - 2 - 3 as for the"4" size they are the rarest of rares infact very few of the armorer's here have one or even seen one not sure but I think Brian Dick may have one.
It is also not just a case of popping on a No.1 bolt head if the H/spacing needs to be tightened up as there is a bit of hand fitting work to get the lock up into spec as other surfaces are in play with the lock up of the Lee Enfield which was mentioned a while ago about the Helical recoil lugs lock up by Bruce in Oz I think.
Just a small correction Cinders - and others. There was a 00 size bolt head produced for the L39 series of rifles, .003 smaller than the 0 size. But there is no evidence that this was ever approved for the L42. There's a bit of history behind the 00 size that I've mentioned before so won't bore you all
I would say get it! you will not regret it and you definitely will enjoy shooting it!
It never stops at just one Enfield or 303 rifle trust the forumers when they say this fact.
So true. I have had an Enfield Enforcer, several No.1 Mk.111*s, various No.4s, including a couple of 1941 Long Branch No.4 Mk.1s, and recently narrowly missed out on a No.4 T. Would have loved to keep them all, but seem to keep getting hit by bouts of medical bills. Still, I am only a custodian for a little while.Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
Well, bought it, will post photos and a range report as soon as I can.
Good for you. A good story of “one that DIDNT get away”