The recent gun show pick up M1911 has a tiny Century Arms Import marking on it. Does anybody know when or from where Century imported them? I scoured the web but didn't find anything useful. I'll add a photo of what I am speaking about for aid.
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The recent gun show pick up M1911 has a tiny Century Arms Import marking on it. Does anybody know when or from where Century imported them? I scoured the web but didn't find anything useful. I'll add a photo of what I am speaking about for aid.
Stumbled on to this, not sure if I'm on the right trail, but possibly The Philippines, made by S.A.M. Shooters Arms Manufacturing, Inc. They made/make 2 models in .45acp. Military style and a Elite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman1510
M1911 distributed exclusively in the United States by Century Arms International. About all I know, gathered from this link:
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Centu.....-a0237627549
HTH,
Charlie-Painter777
Hey Painter, the 1911 I have is a GI model made by Colt, has the US property marks and the wear to boot, I suspected it could have ce from Korea or another Pacific nation but I am not sure. Interestingly my LGS has a S.A.M M1911 that I looked at pretty beat little pieces in my opinion.
Found a few Tid Bits:
Colt M1911 with CAI import markings under trigger guard - CMP Forums
Century Import Marked M1911A1? - CMP Forums
A Colt series 70 with a CAI import mark? - AR15.COM
My Thoughts after reading the AR15 forum link above, Maybe exported from the USA to a Foreign Police Force or the like, then Imported back to the States via CAI.
Good Luck
Charlie-Painter777
Thanks Painter, if you don't mind me asking, what were your keywords you used in the search bar?
EDIT:
I think it *could* be one of the imports from the Philippines or Taiwan as mentioned on the other site. Considering that they mentioned the M1911s were in rough shape coincides with mine. It looks like it was stored in a wet sock for 20 years.
I used a Google search: Did Century Arms Import M1911 ?
Which brought up these results: Did Century Arms Import M1911 ? - Google Search
Then it Morphed to where ever I wandered from there. I recall seeing (somewhere) a return/purchase of some Israeli Security pistols purchased by CAI somewhere along the way. Also Filipino and Taiwan purchases..... all being small buys. Read where someone (I believe a gun shop dealer on the AR forum) stated that CAI keeps these purchases close to their vest, to discourage or to keep other Importers from finding out, thus becoming competition.
I believe my best results came after I Tried this Google search that seemed to hit better:
colt m1911 with Century Arms Import stamp
Results: colt m1911 with Century Arms Import stamp - Google Search
Charlie-P777
The import stamp I am looking at on mine is in the photo posted earlier in this thread, I could get some better detail on it if required. However I couldn't find the import country that is usually labeled on import weapons. At least not yet any way due to the roughness. Let me break out a fine flashlight.
EDIT:
Nothing that I can see besides an Eagle Head Proof and a tiny 5.7 on the bottom left side of the trigger guard near the mag release. The only marks I see are the U.S. property marks on both the slide and frame. I highly doubt it, but could there be something under the grips?
Might the 5.7 you see...... Possibly be S 17 ? with the 1 very lightly stamped?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman1510
We need guys like Pepper and his gang to see this.
1911 Eagle's Head marking. question? - 1911Forum
I have seen the S17 below the eagle head stamping, and I just saw another link that had a number stamped in the same spot, I will have to find the link tomorrow as well as post a few photos here.
Here are the stamps I did find on the weapon. The Eagle Head has the S17 and the 5.7 is just barley visible.
I have a few more photos as well. The pistol has what I am assuming is a civilian barrel in it, no big lost to me though. It is blued, but no production markers on it to tell me who made it.
Here's a link to my 1 of 10,000 Colt made for the Agentines, Model of 1927. Made here in the USA for them.
Look over this old posting, mainly to get to my Photobucket link in there that will show you how far I had to stripped it down for markings.
HTH
Charlie-P777
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=8031
I can't get the grips off, they are siezed up well even after an overnight with WD-40 They do have the special military cut on the inside, I can see that.
Screws come out?
No, the screws are stuck in place
Things like this remind me of how my Father would go at snuck screws, bolts, spark plugs..etc. I'd be to afraid to go forward while he'd pull his sleeves up. I remember the a couple spark plugs wouldn't break free on a old late 40's Willys truck. I gave up knowing they were going to break off. The ole man torqued the plugs a bit tighter, then a bit back counter, back and forth, back and forth for what seemed like forever. Me holding my breath positive they were going to break. A smidge at a time they finally came free. Many times over the years this same trick has worked..... but I'm always nervous as he!! while doing so.
IIRC, your screws looked rough. I don't care for WD40. Better penetrating oils out there like Liquid wrench. Your grips aren't wood correct?
Wonder if you could just submerge the complete grip in fine oil? Thinking out loud....... Someones got a method to get them loose.
Good luck if you decide to attempt. There are markings in/under there.
Charlie-P777
WD-40 isn't a penetrating oil, the stuff sucks accept at removing moisture. Get you some of that, any brand will do. We can't even buy the best penetrating oil know to man hands down, period, but we can make it!!
50/50 ATF "Automatic tranny fluid" and Acetone.
Could be somebody Loctited the screws and ferrels in place because even if the screws won't turn the ferrel should back out. If it wasn't the Blue you're in a world of hurt. Screws can be drilled and replacements are cheap. I'd want to see under those grips given the condition of the rest of the piece.
Could I pick up liquid wrench at an automobile place or a hardware store? I've never looked for it but I suspected it would be in one of the two. And the grips are the plastic WW2 refurbishment grips.
An auto parts store will definitely have it.
I got some hypodermic syringes (sp?) from my Dr with different size needles. They are cheap and you can buy at a local pharmacy.... Just Don't Look Like a JUNKIE !! :ugh:
I Mostly use them when gluing hairline cracks on stocks. But also use them to 'Spot Oil' small areas.... Clocks, watches, guns, fishing reels.. etc. You'd be surprised how surgical one can be with a fine needle giving you access to a limited area. I'd try laying it flat on its side, with your mag out.. reach inside and oil the ends of the screws inside the magwell. Let set overnight, then after flipping it over look for any oil seepage near the outer screw heads. Repeat for the other side, repeating as often as needed until you see oil coming from the outer slotted screw heads.
Don't do like I do: Using a screwdriver that's good nuff. Use one that's a perfect fit. I hope they come off easily for you.
I've read about grips coming off and black sand being inside.
Good luck Snowman ! Keep us Posted. :thup:
CH-P777
:lol: WD40, I believe the maker used the name with the WD standing for WATER DISPLACEMENT. The 40 was because it was his 40th attempt at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WarPig1976
Some will argue... But seems to me that when you use it to lube, after reassembly the WD40 makes things harder to come apart.. like a generic brand of lightweight loctite.
JMO,
Charlie-P777
WD-40. The wonder something or other. Some say it cures arthritis in your joints. Just rub it in and your good to go out dancing again. Others think it's a great lubricant but in reality it was developed for the space program by two men in their garage to displace water. The WD-40 came from being the 40th formula they tried. DO NOT use it inside of a firearm. It grabs onto dirt and unburned powder and becomes like concrete building up layers. Really hard to get it out of an action once it's built up. Hey Charlie, try it on your shoulders. Who knows it might work for you, then again you just might smell of WD-40 but you have nothing to loose. lol.
I thought that was Ballistol. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill
Bruce,Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill
In my case it would really be a Wonder Drug..... Because I never could dance :lol:
I go in tomorrow the 7th to find out what Surgeons I have to pick from. As best I can remember: Their saying the right will need multiple surgeries, So not a one and done :banghead: with the arthroscopic method being used for one of them. A possibility of having to have some type of patch tied in along with a tissue graft. Left one they think arthroscopic will handle it in one shot......... But as you know, I'll be waiting to see, I don't believe they know squat until they get inside. Not my first rodeo...... Man I shouldn't have brought up the Rodeo, I swear I still feel some hurt from that Thoroughbred stomping my lights out. Wait and see is all I can do right now. Many out there facing tougher challenges than I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill
Like Snowman trying to get his Grips Off..
CH-P777
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Seems like that would make them hard to light ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill
Sorry..... Had to, :dancingbanana::dancingbanana::dancingbanana::danc ingbanana::dancingbanana::dancingbanana:
CH-P777
Not if you use a lighter instead of a match. (Oh Ouch.):beerchug: