Ain't this the truth well said I say.......

Military Bias.

Trey Gowdy just said a few things about the military in response to a stupid question from a CNN reporter about the ban of transgenders. He nails it!
Nobody has a "right" to serve in the Military. Nobody. What makes people think the Military is an equal opportunity employer? Very far from it.

The Military uses prejudice regularly and consistently to deny citizens from joining for being too old or too young, too fat or too skinny, too tall or too short. Citizens are denied for having flat feet, or for missing or additional fingers.
Poor eyesight will disqualify you, as well as bad teeth. Malnourished? Drug addiction? Bad back? Criminal history? Low IQ? Anxiety? Phobias? Hearing damage? Six arms? Hear voices in your head? Self-identify as a Unicorn? Need a special access ramp for your wheelchair?

Can't run the required course in the required time? Can't do the required number of push-ups? Not really a "morning person" and refuse to get out of bed before noon? All can be reasons for denial.
The Military has one job. War. Anything else is a distraction and a liability. Did someone just scream "That isn't Fair"? War is VERY unfair, there are no exceptions made for being special or challenged or socially wonderful.

YOU change yourself to meet Military standards… Not the other way around.
I say again: You don't change the Military... you must change yourself. The Military doesn't need to accommodate anyone with special issues.
The Military needs to Win Wars

If any of your personal issues are a liability that detract from readiness or lethality... Thank you for applying and good luck in future endeavors.
Who's next in line?__:super:

(Give this bloke a media medal or something)

The thing is (with the exception of it they need medication to keep up with their gender transformation, as needing to take regular medication will keep you from being accepted over here) i see no reason to keep transgender people out of the military if they meet all the requirements (and have a thick skin/sense of humour).

Then again, my world view is pretty much live and let live. I don't care what race, religion, age, gender, sexual preference, financial status, etc you are, none of them make you a good or bad person.
I will judge you on how you treat me and others. (With bonus points for intelligence and sense of humour.)

The other question is how many transgender people actually want to join the military?
Probably fewer than the right's campaigner's think; especially when the bullets start flying!

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Originally Posted by CINDERS

Can't run the required course in the required time? Can't do the required number of push-ups? Not really a "morning person" and refuse to get out of bed before noon? All can be reasons for denial.

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We did have a few of these though, and with the proper amount of "Coaching"...they usually work out...or get out.

I am a bit more pragmatic & very old school I guess they may want equality with everything but don't fall back on the girly side of things when the $hit hits the fan & the lead starts flying.

No, they don't actually want equality, just the right to do what they want.

The right thing to do is what the Army wants you to do not what you want to do! Thats the whole crux of the matter isn't it BAR.....!

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Originally Posted by CINDERS

The right thing to do is what the Army wants you

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I've got an idea !

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Originally Posted by CINDERS

Thats the whole crux of the matter

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It was so easy later in life when I finally learned to just do what I was told...could have been a "Twenny star general" if I didn't have such a smart mouth...

My lip got me in hot water as well. Though my fist got me in worse trouble. But that didn't stop them from giving me battlefield promotions. And being newly married, we needed the money. Plus we got an extra $65 a month for combat pay. Oh, and free postage.

Anyone who thinks military life was easy back then needs to re-think. Away from you family. Missing birthdays, Thanksgivings, Christmas's, anniversaries. Low pay. People yelling at you in uniform. And the pleasure of lead passing around you. The good side is it was a hell of an awakening. You learned what you were made of in the first five seconds. I wouldn't have changed it.

Unfortunately for us (and US), Mr. Gowdy is stepping down after his term finishes...

Russ

Not sure how they do it now. After 20 in the Army I retired and went to work for the USMC as a civilian. Now granted I have a nice office job but I just cannot get it in my head sharing some of the places I have been with a tranny(in the military that is). Though that is my bag as women got me in enough trouble LOL. In the Artillery it is a rough bunch at least they were and hopefully still are for the life of me can't see a tranny being male or female in the field, humping projos, powder cans and digging in trails/foxholes. I came from 4 generations of Army and artillerymen it's in the blood so to speak. We adapted to the Army never did it adapt to me or my ancestors. I loved it and miss it daily but I don't miss wet, cold and miserable field conditions or hot arid times in some desert. Plus this country as I am sure all of the rest have a hard enough time taking care of our veterans and active duty folks medically. Why would anyone approve adding on to this mess show with taking care of a tranny? Just my opinion.

:lol: Jim a 20 Star General now that would be something to see just imagine how big your collars would be on your uniform Jim to hold all those stars!:lol:

I was going to be 2nd gen in the services had the pen in my hand 3 times to sign the dotted line then thought of my undeniable open hostility/adversity to authority and the law being probably dishonorably discharged after the first week and did not want to smear my dads name or my brothers, one went O/S for 4 years my brother did 20 but passed away 7 days before his discharge.
So I went in to construction after trying other jobs and after 36 years in that game can say I did not travel the world but I did travel allot of this state red hot, freezing cold (Wheatbelt gets minuses at times) & isolated, had some hair raising do's as a dogman walking steel as we were allowed to in those days with no fall arrest system then operating cranes for un-thankful bosses who should have utilzed a larger crane than I was operating, missed allot of family time really never saw my son grow up.
The days of going behind a shed and having a punch up at smoko or lunch time then going back to work are long gone now you say the wrong thing your in front of HR looking at the gate and yes we have transgenders in the trade nothing can be said or inferred because of HR rules but the undertone is there with the crews especially when the hard yards start happening.

But I as always recognize those that have served and continue to serve in the Armed services as there is no position in the world where you are asked to put it all on the line when the brown muck hits the fan for your sacrifice and continuing sacrifice you have my eternal thanks.

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Originally Posted by CINDERS

The days of going behind a shed and having a punch up at smoko or lunch time then going back to work are long gone

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You got that right...as for the other, lack of respect for authority you say you have, I still had lots of those and they worked out fine in the end. You chose well though and all worked out in the end for you. Not everyone has to be military to have done civil duty. You can see the trophy of your accomplishments standing around the world. Mine...well, one of them died of cancer just a couple of days ago, 6 years younger than I... Lots still around.

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Originally Posted by 30Three

The other question is how many transgender people actually want to join the military?
Probably fewer than the right's campaigner's think; especially when the bullets start flying!

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Or maybe just long enough to get the free surgery??? :lol:

Truly said BAR I drive over bridges that I built, Buildings I stood the concrete panels to construct, Steel work and so on your right on there as those structures will still be there long after I am flashed & ashed....