1943 Ariel W/NG motorcycle

Hi Fellows
I share with us a new project. I found this motorcycle all restored by civilian, but the engine and frame numbers are Britisth War Departament Production.

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Ariel 350 wng - YouTube

A WD pic. In the future, it will look like this

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I like this Bren home made carrier! I have a Bren to install .. :dancingbanana:
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Regards!

Good on you Luis, get that pimp shine off and put him back in Uniform.

Now I must search and acquire all military accessories, like pannier frames, bags, BO head light, etc etc.

Nice looking bikes Luis, love the Bren in the shoulder holster... Peter L should love this thread.

IWM pics

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MILITARY MOTORCYCLES OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR | Imperial War Museums

Just to show what one of these did not go for probably my dream bike for an old school vintage that or the Black Shadow.
Vincent Series Rapide | eBay "Reserve Not Met."

Luis, let me know the frame and engine number, I'll look it up .......... looking at the bike It won't take a lot to get it back to a WD bike, I'm not up on Ariel,s but had the chance when I bought my Matchless, cold weather stops play for me in the work shop but when I build the other It will be insulated and very very comfortable to work in, only problem then is I need to build the house extension where the old workshop was.........

If you need any particular parts let me know as its a Minefield when it comes to finding bits, only when talking to other Military vehicle owners do you start to find and get to know the small garages, dealers , collectors which are overflowing with used and new spares.

Hi bigduke! Thanks for your help!
Weeks ago i buy to Draganfly a Parts List according to my frame number.
The book British Forces Motorcycles 1925-45 by Chris Orchard have a list of Army contracts.
The frame XG 44964 march 1944.
The engine BH 21762 march 1942.
Now i need internal parts to restore front wheel hubs (brakes shoes) and then accesories like Carrier Bare, Panniers frame, Lucas Blackout Headlight, side stand, etc etc.
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Hi bigduke! Thanks for your help!
Weeks ago i buy to Draganfly a Parts List according to my frame number.
The book British Forces Motorcycles 1925-45 by Chris Orchard have a list of Army contracts.
The frame XG 44964 march 1944.
The engine BH 21762 march 1942.
Now i need internal parts to restore front wheel hubs (brakes shoes) and then accesories like Carrier Bare, Panniers frame, Lucas Blackout Headlight, side stand, etc etc.
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Your frame is from contract number S5514, 3000 bikes produced, dates from 06/01/44 to Nov 44, cost £62.13s.6d frame numbers between XG44251-47250 engine number should be between BH42001 - 45000 and WD serial allocation number between 5363021- 5366020

The book you mention is excellent, thats were all that info come from :D, try to stay away from reproduction stuff, especially the indian stuff......

I went to look at an Enfield before christmas but it was border line but the guy was a world of knowledge and lots of british bike parts, I walked off with a crank case set for the Matchless.......

You have the same data bigduke!
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The front wheel rim is 21 inch diameter.
Weeks ago i found a correct front wheel (19 inch) but need brakes shoes, speedo drive gear some internal parts and painting.

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Also i buy here a smiths speedo rare to find..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...30b8e1ba07.jpg

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Testing the Ariel. Need adjustment!!
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Luis sounds ok, just before you start to adjust, do the basics on setting the timing and points etc, if your tick over is erratic up and down etc, your carb is probably pulling air where its not meant to, often a replacement slide will or can cure it. There is a company that produces copies of the Amal Carburettor, also the bits are available for Amal, but for the price of bits you can get a new copies of the carb.

Once all is done its just getting used to the advance and retard.

Yes Big Duke, the carb need a checking, also another part like the rear stand.

Now i thinking about the correct olibe drab paint i need to paint the bike...

The Bren tripod i have seems to be the correct olibe drab i need to paint, what do you thing ? Is an example to take?

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This is the british deep bronze green??https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...3c92d57e-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...14474beb-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...95c84a41-1.jpg

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Luis,

Three colours used for vehicles during WW2 where Khaki, beginning of the War, Service brown (SCC No2) which was mid 1942 - April 1944 and then Olive Drab, obvious even well after the dates the previous colour was still applied until stocks run out and new colour was in stock.

Your bike would of been Service brown or possibly olive drab. I got my paint from a local vehicle paint shop Service Brown is BS 499 and Olive Drab is BS 298. , keeping with tradition I went for oil paint (Matt)

The Tank on my Matchless is done in Service Brown which is what the whole bike will be done in, you can't really tell on the pic but the next pic you can see the different shades of Green it has
gone through.

I had completed the Tank and had to put it back on the Bike for an inspection to enable it to get registered, the wires out the Battery box are just for show,


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Amazing your Matchless G3/L !!:dancingbanana:

Year?

Thanks for the photos to compare colors!
I like green more than brown ...
Hard choise!

Will it be easy for you to make a drawing with measurements of the panniers frame, and in that way I can reproduce them?

Thanks in advance!

Luis, Its a 1943, all in bits now and in all four corners of my workshop, frame is all ready for top coat of paint, Engine is ready to rebuild, away at work at present but will dig pannier farme out when home.
My Frame is different I think as it locks in place without the wing nuts.

Some parts i buy in UK to put in my Ariel

The last months I have used them to build brake shoes, since it was impossible to get the originals.
A lot of adjustment work, trial and error, since it did not have original shoes from which to take measurements.
The images speak for themselves. It is difficult for me to explain technical concepts in English

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More pics

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More pics

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Brake shoes lined and ready to install

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I also had to reproduce the brake cam....

Thats outstanding work Luis , but I'm surprised you can't get any though.... am sure you get them here in the UK, as the Ariel never really changed much over the years like the other big makes.
If you give the dimensions of the hub can have a look or try a few folk I know.

Strange the subject is brakes as I,m trying to get some sort of brake on the AJS........ cleaned it all today and would say I now have 20% at the front, I,ve had plenty of bikes with shoes up front but these are diabolical.

Hello Bigduke!
Six months searching 6 1/2 inch brake shoes on ebay and writing ads in all forums and social networks about Ariels.
On the other hand, the economy of my country is not enjoying good health, and purchases abroad at the current exchange rate are extremely expensive.
What will happen that with Tapatak, all the photographs of the process are seen, and on the web page, all are not seen?

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Brake cam process

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Front brake ready!

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Awesome work Luis :clap:

Glad to see refreshments were also utilized in the construction of the cam:cheers:

Thank you Cinders! Is very gratifying build your own parts.
Another part i buy in India is the Headlamp Maskhttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...0d11a73e-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...e99142c4-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...5b0bb01b-1.jpg

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That is looking very respectable something to be really proud of well done.

Hi Cinders! Thank you!
I will have to modify the headlamp brackets, which do not have the corresponding length and raise the position of the headlamp.

We still have to build field side stand and panniers frames.

When it is completely finished and adjusted, I will just begin to disassemble it and paint it OD.

My Ariel at vintage car show Autoclasica here in Buenos Aires. I add some P37 bags. https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...413513cf-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...9159794f-1.jpg

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She's a beauty!

Lovely machine! Well done!

Is that your house in the photos?

It seems Australians and Kiwis are not the only ones to appreciate the versatility of corrugated iron in civil engineering.

Outdoor pizza oven or blacksmith's forge on the left side of the photo? Fancy Asado? Are you in Malbec country?

Cheers!

Hi bruce! Thank you! This is an old british electric railways warehouse station. May be 100 years old. Not my house... this is the place meeting to our military vehicles shop.
Any weekend eat asado and drink our red wine like malbec chardonay sirah and others...https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...99f05946-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...c3edf469-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...29bc01bc-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...6e23530b-1.jpg

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Thanks for that, Luis!

Your club meetings look like a good time, as well!

"Are we all here?"

"Good!"

"Who has the corkscrew?"

The best tool in our toolbox is the corkscrew!!! [emoji28]

Yes , we are locky to have this old warehouse to repair and restore military vehicles. And have a good time wlth friends. Share tools and all we need to have these vehicles live and enjoy.

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