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Hi everyone,
I am helping a friend go through some items. I have used a few sites for a reference, but before he sells them I would like to make sure they are exactly what we label them.
The first set of stripper clips are silver in color and stamped "FMMAP B", 2 of the stripper clips in this set are stamped "DM" are these Argentine Mauser Model Stripper Clips?
Attachment 91563Attachment 91564Attachment 91565Attachment 91566Attachment 91567Attachment 91568
The second set is Stamped "SEY" and "Lufkin" are these 1903 stripper clips?
the third set has 1 stamped BGR 1 stamped IVI, a few stamped "A" and 3 that have no markings, but 2 notches on each side. in the 4th set of pictures all 10 stripper clips appear to have no markings.
the forth set has no markings, but they appear to be for Japanese Type 11 LMG or Siamese Mauser Stripper clips or Siamese Thai Mauser clips
Thank again for helping me ID all the stripper clips I listed.
On a side note can someone help let me know how to tell the difference between the Tokarev stripper clip and the Broomhandle stripper clip?
The SEY and Lufkin are US for the 30-06 cartridge. The Japanese Type 11 m/g used the standard 6,5 stripper clip for the Japanese rifles & carbine
"...for the 30-06 cartridge..." Which means they'll work with any cartridge in that family. .308 Win and .243, for example.
"...stamped IVI..." Canadian made for 7.62NATO, etc.
"...have no markings..." That's because they're considered to be Class 3 stores. As in not returnable. Just like socks.
"...FMMAP B..." Yep. 7.65 Argentine. That has the same case head diameter as the .30-06 and its relatives.
"...the Tokarev stripper clip..." The 7.65 pistol ammo is 1 thou different in rim diameter than the 7.63 Mauser. The 9mm Parabellum is 1 thou larger than the Mauser. Other than the material they're made out of, I suspect they're interchangeable. Liberty Tree has good pictures of all of 'em.
https://www.libertytreecollectors.co...?idCategory=75
@rcs thanks for your help. Are those for the Japanese Type 11 LMG? From what I have been able to tell the 11mg, Siamese Mauser Stripper clips & Siamese Thai Mauser clips all look similar. Please forgive if if it sounds stupid, but I do not know anything about Japanese rifles.
@sunray The first 3 you listed all fall under the 1903 30-06 family?
Thank you everyone for your help. I have a few more that I will post later.
My Japanese stripper clip (which is brass) for the 6,5 Japanese cartridge is .66 inch wide and .165 thick. The Jap Type 11 machine gun used the same 6,5 stripper clips
as the Japanese rifles and carbines, the loaded clips were placed in a hopper on the machine gun
Your clips are not 7,7 Jap either but they do look like the type manufactured by Japan or from that part of the world
Thanks RCS, I put a mic to them, they appear to be .5330" wide and .1060" thick
He means the rim and base are the same....308, 7.62, 30-06, 243...so on. The IVI are cdn for 7.62. The US are marked as RCS said and for the M14 rifle. The same ones work for .30 cal ammo for Johnston rile, 1903 and later...M1917... My Japanese clips are different. Not as deep and fancy. Remember how many countries used 7.62mm ammo, and 58 countries used the FN in one configuration or another. Although they didn't top load the rifle, they had a mag charger for the magazines.Quote:
Originally Posted by mwrookie
Early picture from the FN T.48 manual
I had one of those in the collection in Gagetown New Brunswick...from one of the regimental museums. Yes, the body cover wasn't adopted by all...Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
I had some HRA T-48 covers that had the stripper clip slot but traded them off years ago. It is not a good method to refill the magazine in the rifle. Never seen anyone use the five
round stripper to reload the M14 magazine while still in the rifle.
I did it myself when I had an M14. Empty mag on, fill and replace. It was easier than loading singles. I had lots of practise as this was an accepted method of loading the FN C1... The charger guide is handier though, on the loose mag.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
So just to make sure I am understanding. the rim and base of the brass on those calibers are the same, so its just the length of the neck and opening of the mouth that very with those calibers?
Case length and some cases the bullet diameter. The base of the cartridge is the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by mwrookie
Few more stripper clips I need your expertise on identifying.
3 ribs on each side no markings
3 ribs on each side 1 is stamped P and the other 3 are blank
all 5 have 3 ribs on each side, 4 are stamped DWM 1 is stamped 67 and a triangle
2 are parked with 3 ribs on each sie and 1 has 2 ribs on each side, but they are centered.
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