Standard Products (SJ) stock restoration

I purchased this stock on eBay about a week ago! I got a really good deal on it. As soon as it was delivered by the UPS man, I promptly took it to a reputable furniture/wood restoration shop to get this "dry" stock looking good again!

Pics of the stock how I got it (I will post the after pics when I get it back lol)

I hope this cartouche is legit :)

I searched the forum high and low to compare, but I am still on the fence... I also compared it to the harrison markings, and it appears to be different.. Not sure what to think...


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Nice stock, but I have to ask why not get some Raw Linseed Oil and oil the stock yourself.

I would test fit a buttplate on first and see how much potential overhang there is. I picked up an WRA stock on eBay a while back that had been stripped down like yours and I had miserable buttplate fit and later found a bad crack in the recoil plate seat; I sent it back.

I live in an apartment complex, and I do not have the space to be able to properly undertake that project. I looked into it, and it looks like it would have been a fun experience if I had a garage or something.

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It came with a buttplate already on it, and the fit seems ok. As far as I can tell, there was no overhang. Hopefully the stock is problem free.

:wave:First mistake; comparing it to Harrison's drawings. If it did look like his, then it would be fake. His drawings of ordnance stamps are highly inaccurate. You need to compare it to the ones in War Baby. Those are correct.

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Originally Posted by nquattr

compared it to the harrison markings, and it appears to be different

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That's a good thing.
Some what hard to see but, the stamp appears to be original to the stock.
We'll get a better view after it's oiled.
Look forward to seeing the 'After Picture'
Do you have something to put in that stock ?

Welcome to the forum,

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Originally Posted by painter777

That's a good thing.
Some what hard to see but, the stamp appears to be original to the stock.
We'll get a better view after it's oiled.
Look forward to seeing the 'After Picture'
Do you have something to put in that stock ?

Welcome to the forum,

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As soon as I get it back, I will post some pictures.

I am going to put my mixmaster Underwood in it. The rifle is has a 2.5M serial, winchester flat bolt, rock-ola trigger housing, underwood trigger, inland slide, and a winchester barrel with a bayonet lug.
When I purchased it, I knew nothing about M1 Carbines, but after searching this forum for hours I was able to find out quite a bit of information about it.
Thankfully, I do not have an import mark anywhere on the gun, and the receiver does not have any signs of being cut in half lol.

Once the stock is finished, this carbine is going to be the gem of my firearms collection. I have glocks, berettas, ar15s.... But nothing has the history behind it like this carbine I bought.

When looking for one, that's a hard stock to find. I've found and own a number of S-HB stocks, but never seem to come across any SJ's.
I believe it will be a nice looker when finished up.

What was the stock make that came on it ?

To Add, Being a 2,5 mil UEF... Is the receiver stamped on the rear as being a Sub Contract made... letter: B, S, T, W,WTA or WWA ?

nquattr,

If you ever decide to take on a stock restoration on your own..... I may have one that would 'Challenge you'.
We call her Frankenstock !!

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Originally Posted by painter777

When looking for one, that's a hard stock to find. I've found and own a number of S-HB stocks, but never seem to come across any SJ's.
I believe it will be a nice looker when finished up.

What was the stock make that came on it ?

To Add, Being a 2,5 mil UEF... Is the receiver stamped on the rear as being a Sub Contract made... letter: B, S, T, W,WTA or WWA ?

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When I bought it, it had a reproduction M1A1 folding stock. I ended up buying a NOS Springfield Armory M1/M2 stock to put on it in the meantime.

I stand corrected... I have a 2.6M serial, not a 2.5M.

Here is a pic of the stamp below the serial. A "b" with some sort of moon crescent...
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Also -- I can see why it's called Frankenstock :)
I would not even know where to begin during that restoration project.

nq,
The moon is actually a lightly stamped Bomb shell.
The B means this receiver was made by Singer Manufacturing Company (not Singer Sewing)
Singer made and supplied the bare receiver to Underwood.
Adds some value to it.
I see your Recoil plate is a post war cast type. If mine I'd replace with one marked for Underwood.... that closely (If possible) matches the receiver in color.
Thx for sharing it.

Around 53,000 B coded Underwood receivers according to CC newsletter #369

I finally got the stock back -- and here it is. Looks a lot different than before.

Now I just need to find an original sling.

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I know these other guys are too couth to say it. Luckily I ate lead paint chips as a child so I don't possess those filters.


Don't worry, nothing a little paint stripper and Linseed oil won't fix. ;)

Hell, WarPig, I'll be uncouth with ya.
The furniture shop ruined that stock with a film finish. And not a good one, at that.
Strip that junk off and put a coat of oil on it.
And don't worry about the apartment. Linseed Oil smells halfway pleasant and I once stripped a painted up 1917 in my apartment bathtub -- I still have most my brain cells too.

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Looks a lot different than before.

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I'd say, looks pretty darn decent for a $65 eBay stock! :thup: - Bob

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I'd say, looks pretty darn decent for a $65 eBay stock! - Bob

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And the Recoilplate looks much nicer.
Shoot it, enjoy it.

Linseed oil is a salad dressing to some people, it's eatable, not dangerous what so ever. Raw that is not the boiled variety.

Looks like a tung-oil finish. It's fine, like Painter said shoot it and enjoy it. The more you use it the better.

Best Regards.....Frank

Shine could be buffed down later, because that new finish is probably still curing.
Very nice grab from Ebay for the money.

NQ,
Appears like a Putty repair between the Oiler slot and Butt plate.
You could use a Paint Pen/Marker to color it over for a better color match.

From your pictures the Sling Webbing looks legit as far as I can see.
Is the sling a D tip or C tip ?
Real C tips are running at and over $100.
Thought being, since your carbine has late features, I'd see no problem with a real post war D tip sling.
Money saved for ammo or to start buying needed tools..... like Bolt tool..etc

Rare stock for a great price in very good shape. I don't see how you could have lost on that deal!

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Originally Posted by painter777

The B means this receiver was made by Singer Manufacturing Company (not Singer Sewing)

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That can be a confusing statement. Singer Sewing Machines were made by Singer Manufacturing Company.
Singer was a worldwide company. The receivers as well as artillery shells were built in the Wheeler & Wilson factory in Bridgeport Connecticut. Interestingly the singer code for the plant was "W"
There is no direct proof of why Singer receivers were marked with a "B" I suspect it was an arbitrary letter assigned by Underwood.
Another US factory made wood crates for guns and other items as well as parts for gliders
Other factories in allied nations also produced items such as grenades

It is rumored that Singer Manufacturing plant in Germany produced weapons or munitions for their troops.

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Nice add Dan.......

Thanks

Not a receiver, but here's a Singer that belonged to my mom - probably got it before I was born. Treadle operated of course, and I got in trouble once for messing with the "tension" adjustment! - Bob