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First of all I wanted to say hello as I a new to the forum. I'm currently working on a 1897 Trench gun clone. Getting closer and I'm looking to see if anyone would be kind enought to "Rent" the crossed cannon and "WB" inspector mark stock stamps? If not does anyone have any they would be interested in selling? Thanks
I’m not sure many folks around here look too kindly on these stamps. Too easy to pass a stamped up firearm on to an unsuspecting soul.
Building a replica sounds like a fun project though! Got any pictures?
Yea I understand about trying to pass off as an original. Not my kinda thing though. I don't really sell guns although I need to. Lol I'll get some pics. Thanks
Thats like asking has anyone got the E6 stamp and the BSA/H&H stamps so they can make up an M47C/S51 No.4 "T" purely for academic ownership of a faker.......... I am not trying to preempt you but its exactly why the stamps if they are out there should stay in a safe then again if you onsell the gun and destroy the fake stocks then all is good. Sorry but unless someone has a set that are obvious fakes I think you should be content with a look alike from a distance. Sorry to be an anti faker its just my take on the matter of faking real items because in the long run it ruins it for those of us that have outlaid hard earned cash for real specialty investment weapons only to have the price driven down by forgeries.
Never say never, but I doubt you'll get a regular member offering these stamps. Better to hunt the internet, we deal in correct here as much as possible.
This year I saw an M1 Rifle, Winchester serial number 1,200001 sell for over five thousand dollars and the cartouche was a fake WRA WB and it had the wrong stock !
Also saw a gas trap rifle in the 21K serial number range sell for a lot on money and the SA SPG cartouche was faked too.
You have to wonder if the people that spend this kind of money know what they are buying (or care)
I'd say no they don't. Some guys go blind... Then when you point it out they get acrimonious and send you packing, "What do you know anyway?"...Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
The OP here seems to have vaporized after getting a less than hearty helping hand to do this one...
My bad :)Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
I was way ahead of you on that one, like...get a rope... Anyway, we have all talked about fakes lots. We all know what the consensus is... With you completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by rcathey
I concur with both of you:thup:
No one who puts together on of these "tribute" guns ever 'plans' to sell it but somehow they always end up on the market. I have seen numerous M1903/1903A1 Springfield sniper rifles of various types come up for sale over the last several years after the genuine rifles started to sell for high documented prices. The M1903A1 rifles with USMC Unertl scopes are especially common. Some of the replica guns are very good. NONE of them were identified by the seller as non-original rifles. No matter what the builder's original intent was the end result is that original rifles are also questioned and the value of rare, genuine, pieces is potentially reduced. I spent a lot of time and effort over many years assembling a collection of real U.S. and British sniper rifles. These guns are valuable because they are original and rare.- Every time someone puts together a 'tribute" or 'clone' version of a rare gun it potentially impacts the value/collectability of original pieces.
That's not true...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Jackson
I said that in #4Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Jackson
Also the only way fakers get onto the market is the "Someone" sells them and some have come on here after spending a good wad of hard earned cash only to find after the experienced people here point out the thing was a fake, I think in one instance the buyer got their money back. But what a heart rending thing as for some it is a one of purchase just to see it was a "Fosby flop"