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looking for a good IHC m1 garand reference book
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Nice looking rifle, I'd love to know exactly where it travelled to. Scott Duff speaks of them and illustrates in his book "The M1 Garand: POST WORLD WAR II". You might get what you want there.
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Thank you! it has some dings and dents in the wood and the finish on the metal is worn in alot of places but I think its mostly correct if not all correct IHC info is kinda hard to find yet understand like the number code in the stock.
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The one in Scott's book also has a four digit number but different from yours. The ones he displays are 4445628, 4575534, 4584311, 4584312, 4655712 and one close to yours...5104106.
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I just found the book on Amazon!!
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AFJon
Thank you! I wish to see that book out soon!
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ajconti
I wish to see that book out soon
By the text in the forum it may be a pipedream. One of the books we wait for forever...thread goes back 6 years.
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IHC
The IHC book is a long sad story that is still on-going. The stock number 1674 is a dating code indicating the 167th day of 1954. That's not the rifle date, just the wood.
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The barrel date is 5/54 I cant seem to be able to pin point when the reciever was made like you can with the other makers.
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ajconti
The barrel date is 5/54 I cant seem to be able to pin point when the reciever was made like you can with the other makers.
That's because IHC's record keeping was spotty at best. Also remember, the rifles were NOT assembled in numerical order.
Jon
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Production
That's because IHC production was wildly irregular, including a 3-month halt while they looked for the cause of jamming. After that they did all kinds of things to catch up or solve problems, like buying receivers from SA. Then they sold the plant and negotiated out of the M1 contract early. The result was a LOT of irregularities.
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so basically no one can tell for sure if the rifle I have is correct or not? It just seems that manufacturing issues and lack of record keeping makes the task almost impossible.
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Maybe just comparing your rifle to the one that Scott Duff illustrates will be as close as you can get? There ARE other guys here that can make an educated guess...
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Verify
There have been enough probable originals that in general we know what they look like. For example, we learned a LOT from the Police Sales back in the 1980s, many of the returns were IHCs. Wood was rotted, exteriors were sometimes rusty, but the interiors were often like new and appeared original.
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I ordered 2 of scott duffs books one on wwii garands and one on the post war. I seen the canifield book but that one was pricey is it worth the money?
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ajconti
I ordered 2 of scott duffs books one on wwii garands and one on the post war. I seen the canifield book but that one was pricey is it worth the money?
Yes. The Duff books are getting long in the tooth as far as the information they contain. Canfield's book incorporates much more recent information that's been gleaned in the intervening years. I would buy all three if it were me.
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Yes, Canfield's books are worth the money too... You need several to be able to cross reference.
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I think the guy's name is Wayne Bradford. Actually, if you read through his posts, he gives some great information. Copy his posts and paste into a Word Document and you have the book!
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Orlando
wow That is beautiful! I have a very busy week I will try to do a full detailed strip down of my rifle and post the pics! thank you for this!
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op rod catch looks refinished as pin is not in the white. It was probably replaced at some point. Hard to tell what manufacture the butt plate is as there is to much wear to the metal
Nice Garand
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The rifle has alot of dings and scratches. but the bore looks good and it shoots well. Are the butt plate and oprod catch safe to say its hot IHC are is there any other parts or things that stick out? Thank you for all your help!!
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one last question is it wortg tring to find the correct parts for this Rifle or just leave it alone and shoot it.
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browningautorifle
The one in Scott's book also has a four digit number but different from yours. The ones he displays are 4445628, 4575534, 4584311, 4584312, 4655712 and one close to yours...5104106.
Jim--
I have 5104988 which originally came back from Korea with a bent LMR barrel in the mid-90s from Navy Arms. I have since put a Douglas NM .308 Winchester barrel on the rifle.
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fjruple
5104988
Very close number...and I don't blame you. I did one that was a Danish return that had an as new bent barrel, bent where it was thickest. Bet they couldn't figure out why it wouldn't group or zero correctly...
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ajconti
The rifle has alot of dings and scratches. but the bore looks good and it shoots well. Are the butt plate and oprod catch safe to say its hot IHC are is there any other parts or things that stick out? Thank you for all your help!!
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one last question is it wortg tring to find the correct parts for this Rifle or just leave it alone and shoot it.
Op rod cacth woukld not be correct, to much ear on the butt plate to tell what manufacture it is. Hard to see in the pics but looks as though the follower rod is not correct, cant tell about the follower arm. Are there hash marks on the side like the one I have pictured?
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no there arent any marks the finish is almost like a blued finish not so much a parkerizd like usual on all 3 parts. I did check the front sight screw and it had the same marks as yours.
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The last show I was at a guy claimed to have an IHC national match and had what appeared to be a copy of the org. paper for it. He didn't have the weapon with him and I told him they didn't make one and to go away. He wanted an awful lot for it but It appears I was very wrong about it being real.
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I expected someone to jump in and tell me I was right or wrong.
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I dont know Ive never seen a NM harvester before.
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I have seen one once that was in original shipping box, fairly rare. Unless a NM rifle has provenance its just another garand with NM parts
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non-SA NM
When used receivers were received by the Springfield NM instruction team, they were separated into SA and non-SA. The SAs were set aside for building. The students were told to select from the non-SA pile to practice on and build a rifle. I'm guessing a good student rifle or two might have been taken into the pipeline. There was also a period when the SA NM team was desperate for receivers, I think they relaxed their SA-only prejudice for a few guns.
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