Bren Tripod Paratrooper model Diagram

Well the more and more that I look at this diagram (plate A T) of the following website
BREN Tripod Parts
I'm thinking that it has to be for the Paratrooper Model.
Look at the lower right of the traverse Part 22,23,25 are for a screw in, only like the one that I've seen in the pics of the Paratrooper model. Almost all of the Bren tripods have two screws on both sides of the traverse.
Any thoughts on this, anyone?

I talked with my friend Brian (brp) as to where the diagrams came from and he said he found them on the internet. Well I would like to see the rest of the group of diagrams. Anyone out there have any idea where they came from??

Later 42rocker

The so called parachute model is nothing to do with what you show. The model the main 'A' frame folds up side to side in order to fit into a standard dropping container.

Peter
So you are saying that the Paratrooper model in the back right area of the Traverse does NOT use a screw in handle like shown in (plate A T). In all of the pics that I've seen of the Paratrooper Model there is a screw in handle, used to lock everything in place. This seems to be the only model that uses a handle and not the normal screw and lock nut setup. Shown in plate A T. you have a screw in handle, now the folding part you are talking about is not even in the diagrams shown. Yes I agree that the folding part is one of several things that makes the Paratrooper Model. But again I say that plate A T has a screw in handle and the only time that I've seen it is in the Paratrooper model and not in a regular Bren Tripod.

Later 42rocker

The diagram shows the traverse bar from the Mk2* Or paratrooper model if you prefer.

If I can post a photo of mine I will.

Brit plumber
Would love to see another pic of the Mk2* or Paratrooper. They are not a lot of posted pics. I've found two groups of pics in my searches so far. As I don't think that I'll either have the Luck or the money to buy one I'm thinking about making one out of some of the parts I have. I'll take pics as I go on that project. Please note I will mark it repro and give it a special serial number.
As you stated "The diagram shows the traverse bar from the Mk2* Or paratrooper model if you prefer." That was plate A T, in looking at it and the other plates I see "E. B. 851", is that a manual number or ?? I've run the search engine several times using the E. B. 851 and not found anything meaningful yet. Do you (or anyone) else have any thoughts as far as that plate being from a manual or whatever?
Also is there a listing as to the general type of Bren Tripods and what makes them such, as far as details go. If there is where can I find it?

Later 42rocker

That number is probably a print plate number from the parts diagram, perhaps an EMER but I would imagine the same images were used in various publications.

I don’t know of any listings which refer to the various types of tripods as there aren’t that many. We could probably list them in a few lines.

Er, if its any use I copied DD(E) 3713 which I believe is the parts needed to convert a Mk II tripod into a Mk 2*, about 22 sheets of drawings plus a General assembly drawing and a bunch of lists for the various stock parts used to make them. I also copied a couple of Illustrated parts lists for the Mk 2* and was fortunate enough to find the original beautifully rendered drawings/paintings that they made to illustrate the parts lists which are much clearer than the printed ones. The DD(E) were copied from half plate negatives on a domestic scanner so you sometimes need to zoom in to read the dimensions etc but are better than nowt.

There's also copies of drawings of the cheap and cheerful Indian version of the tripod.

Happy to email any or all of them to you if you drop me a PM with a address to send them to.

ATB

Tom

Not sure whats going on but I can't seam to post photo links, or at least I can but they don't show.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../2psq3ba-1.jpg

Now its started to work!

tombear
Thanks for that Great offer. I've sent my info by pm. Thanks, it's sharing like this that really helps out.
Brit plumber
Thanks for that pic as I don't have a good pic of that area from that angle. Thanks for your info also. I'll be working on taking more pics late tonight.

Later 42rocker

Due to dinner and other things my plans are set back as to what I'm going to get done in the next 48 hours.
As far as my statement of building I've got a lot of Bren Tripod upper front legs so as I have very little hope of ever getting enough bottom front legs to match I'm going to use three of those front legs and one rusted A frame and some scrap metal and give it a go. Also have a T&E that I don't have the rest of a tripod to go with, which will stay original and can be moved from tripod setup to tripod. So on with it.

Later 42rocker

I’ll see if I find some lower AA legs.

tombear
THANK YOU ! - THANK YOU ! and one more time - THANKS
I have only opened the first group that you sent me. It does prove that plate A T is of the Mk2* (Paratrooper) Model which is somewhat important to me. As a side note my Father was 11th Airborne during WW2. What a Great Find for you to share! If I can ever help you with the MG34 or MG42 or M53 Lafettes Please let me know.

Brit plumber
I Thank you for the offer of front lower legs but I have over a dozen upper front legs that need help. Now that said I'm only going to change 3 of them and keep the rest as they are and use scrap metal to make a usable lower leg part. That said I could still use a couple of lower front legs, either Mk1 or Mk1*. Really one of the bigger things that I need is the springs that go between the leg and main body.
I was told that you received the manual part that shows the Mk2* also. How impressive, what a great group and they all (that I checked that is) seem to have the E.B. 851 on them. Of course you do have the real Mk2* tripod. Nice. As I'm feeling better I'll try to get a few pics and post either today or tomorrow. Thanks.

Later 42rocker

Well, it's been 5 years since I started this thread.
WOW, time moves on.

THANKS to Machine Gun Dave at Sarco!
I don't have to make a Mk2*. I bought and then rebuilt a couple.
I'm going to add more pics in the next week or so but I'll post the following if I can remember how to post pics on this site.

I'll have to redo the other pics as they are to large. That I know how to do, just not at this time.

Later 42rocker

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As I said before
Dream come true. Thanks Machine Gun Dave @ Sarco.

That said all of the tripods I bought were stripped someplace of a LOT of parts. Had to search in the attic to find a lot of them.
That said L4997 was not too bad.
Missing "goose neck", both traverse locks, T&E, and traverse to body screws. Really not that bad.
The other L5035 was missing the same parts but had the "T-handle" missing and the nut on the back of the traverse that the "T-handle" screws into was removed. Ok, have the blue-prints and a lathe so sometime, I'll make a true replacement for the nut and bolt setup that I made up. The nut and bolt setup works, however.
More pics later I promise
Since I took the pics I added the traverse stops. Ok, still need to add the little traverse bar screws at each end. ANYONE have any extras for sale??

Later 42rocker

Here is L4997
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And the pair L5035 added
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I'm still not done with them. They still need a LOT of Loving.

The one had the front leg on the left rear and needed a front screw also.

Whatever, they don't look that bad in the above post.

But here is how I received them.

Later 42rocker

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Very nice find well done !