Literally every brand is out of stock online everywhere. I understand GP11 dried up a while back, but currently even PPU is gone. What gives?
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Literally every brand is out of stock online everywhere. I understand GP11 dried up a while back, but currently even PPU is gone. What gives?
Best guess since it's not a typical hunting caliber ammunition manufactures moved on to common hunting ammunition and will probably make another run in the future.
I know the GM at Graf & Sons. They're expecting more very soon now.
As for GP11, it too will be back in the US before long. Bern retooled and the new factory ammo began production two years ago and is prolific in Europe. Once the rest of the old GP11 is out, the new stuff will be shipped. The only difference is the new GP11 no longer has the wax sealer and is not crimped. The only reason for the original crimp is for the old MG42 machine gun and a few others that were dropped long ago. The MG42 is soon to be replaced by the Belgian Minimi machine gun. Only negative is that the new runs are also Berdan primed.
The Boxer primed RUAG Match brass is being used in Europe in various loads and projectile weights, but thus far has not been available in North America. They haven't shipped that beautiful brass into the US since 2005.
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I held back 2,000 of this Boxer RUAG Match from the 10,000 we brought into the US sometime around 2004
You are all in Canada, and I do know that a few of the Sanctioned Swiss shooting clubs that have already received some of the new GP11.
That’s good to know. Thanks. I stashed away a set of reloading dies and I have 500 PPU spent brass just in case new ammo isn’t forthcoming in America soon.
I had also noticed that PPU was sold out on most online retailers, fortunately one of my local stores still had several boxes on hand and i was able to stockpile a bit.
Prvi Partizan has been changing over their production line for new "rifle line", "pistol line" and "match line" ammo. I suspect this is the reason for the shortage and once the packing is put into production it will again be available.
I reload and got 500 cases of the PPU from Grafs. You can go deluxe with Norma or PPU. PPU is right in there quality wise with RP. I think its as good as Lapua, fired a lto of side by side test and see zero difference.
7.5x55 Swiss - Rifle Brass - Metallic Reloading - Graf Sons
I do a minimum shoulder bump back and anneal the necks with an Induction anneal.
Have lost very few to any issues mostly the seating not line up and bending the lip badly.
A kind person from the Savage site sent me 20 rounds of the GP11 and it shot ok (about 1.5 inches) but not great so I know I have a picky barrel and hope to solve its picky some day with the right bullet and powder.
Supply and demand. Both of which are low. The Swiss rifles are kind of an odd milsurp so there's not enough demand for the ammo. Then you get EU and Third World Debating Club restrictions on international sales of military ammo.
Graf's is showing Hornady 165 grain hunting ammo as being on sale for $26.09 per 20. Midway lists Prvi 174 grain FMJ's at $21.99 per 20. Both are in stock.
"...an Induction anneal..." Annealing is an 'As required' thing only. It is not necessary otherwise.
Demand for 7.5x55 was big enough to get RUAG to retool for the case after having sold about 1/3rd of their machinery off in 1995. RUAG uses that case for all of it's commercial loads in Europe, and in CH the mg34 is still in use in the Swiss Army. Demand in the US and Canada is why they retooled. That's not a small thing at all for any company.
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Happy to say I have both the weapon and the dies. Now just need to get me some ammo. Money to buy the ammo would work also.
Thanks for the info share.
Later 42rocker
Sportsman's guide currently has 7.5 Swiss FMJ in stock for $17 a box.
PPU, 7.5x55 Swiss, FMJ-BT, 174 Grain, 20 Rounds - 223085, 7.5x55 Swiss Ammo at Sportsman's Guide
While there is some debate on this, the reality is that once a neck cracks, the others are close to and will crack as well even if annealed.Quote:
"...an Induction anneal..." Annealing is an 'As required' thing only. It is not necessary otherwise.
As annealing accuracy is tough, I under anneal and anneal often enough to prevent that issue.
Once very 5 cycles the cases get annealed and they are trimmed. As I have a motorized trimmer its easier to do all regardless of length, if they need it, it trim em back, if not they go in, back out and off to the races.
5 rounds of firing does not have any too long. Its worked nicely for 4 years.
Like changing your oil too often, it may be more than needed but it may be whats needed as well. Doesn't hurt to do it more often.