Do I Have a British or Canadian Clasp Knife ?

I dug about 12 different knives from my Fathers footlocker and seen the Broad Arrow on this one.
2 blade, 1 about 2-1/2"~ the other a tin/can opener. Tip has a fixed blade slot screwdriver.
I'd say Stainless with markings as follows: top to bottom:

Oil the Joints
Warriss ------------------------------------------ *The Maker (Warriss?)
Sheffield ------------------------------------------ * Made in (Sheffield?) England
C.C. 1286-------------------------------------------*C.C. Means? 1286 Means?
^ 1955 -------------------------------------------*(^) = Broad Arrow
^ 497 -------------------------------------*(^) Arrow and 497 stamped Vertically near ring clasp

I found one like it on Auction, same just different date-1954 vs my 1955 and mine marked with the 497 vs the one on auction's 448

Have I got the proper name for it ?
British and Canadian Issue?
If Issued.. To Army, Navy...etc ?
Anyone know what the 497 number stands for ? Lot number ?

Picture is from the Auction, not mine.

Thanks Appreciate any Help,

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...1/sl1600-6.jpg

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...1/sl1600-7.jpg

UK issue I think. I never saw one here. The ones we had were twice the size and had a marlin spike. No broad arrow or CA or anything. That one must be English... Yes, clasp knife or just Knife, folding pocket...

Thx Jim,
The Spike would be nice, would make this handy in the pocket helping untie knots.
Lighter than the (to me) bulky leatherman.

CH-P777

CC. could stand for Carbon Content of the blade steel.

I have one with a Blade, Marlin spike, rope loop and blade screw driver one end with grey plastic type scales has a /|\ and a 6 but the No. is very faint also on the blade near the base of it, it has Sheffield England along with a Maltese cross and a * like asterix any clues. Vintage/Era. TIA

Marlin spike indicates navy. Splicing ropes, cables, etc.

Warriss have been around for donkeys years supplied swords to cavalry during Balaclava.
CC stands for Crown Copyright filed under 1286
Here's a link:

warriss sheffield - Google Search

Er.......... CC is the part of the old VAOS Ordnance part number. GC/CC-1286. GC = cutlery hardware item followed by part number, as KNIFE, pocket with locking blade. Still issued and new part number CG/5110-99-301-0310

There were a few makers of this knife in the early days, the main problem I found was the locking spring snapping normally on the can/bottle opener. Had a few in the past from car boot sales, blokes (or wives) selling off their old TA kit.... for anything from 50p to £2

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Originally Posted by Daan Kemp

Marlin spike indicates navy

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Well, in the beginning. Our navy however didn't carry them. They had Russell belt case knives. Interesting how testimony is refuted...

Anyway, here's the big one we carried and the later issue Camillus that was sought to avoid having this giant tied to your pocket by a bootlace...as a recruit. I bought a swiss knife myself. Then we have the Russell belt knife that was issued. Now of course the Leatherman after the trial of Gerber tools.

The earlier knife was similar to that Jim just the spike and blade, but had grips on, you see boxes of them at Military fairs etc, only a few pounds but they are hit and miss as all the boxes I've seen they are rusty as if they suffered water damage, some were partially preserved with grease etc and just when you think you found a keeper the blade is none existent or half the size it should be....
Pays to take a few disposable gloves to these meetings etc.

When I left my apprenticeship (it was called boy-service) and went into the real world, we were given all of our new kit and the fatherly Company Commander (Major Swanson, Royal Surrey Regt) gave us leavers all a short talk about the real world outside our sheltered world of apprentices and school. Be gentlemanly, abhor violence and war at all costs and all that stuff - and then the next thing the quartermaster walked round and gave us all a razor sharp jack-knife* as shown! Strange world. And shortly afterwards the first of our batch got the chop in Aden!
*We called them jack-knives. I kept mine and gave it to my son a couple of years ago. The good thing about the jack-knife over the Leatherman was that the crunchies were unable to use the jack knife to strip their kit down as they do with a leatherman.
I don't remember our jack knives from the 60's onwards having the spike thinggy as by then, we didn't do a lot of rope splicing, putting bullet holes in the paper targets so that the range day would finish early as everyone got a top score or taking stones out of horses hooves

The few British navy clasp knives I've seen were dated early fifties. Like the first two photos but with scales, I can't remember the material. That one is missing the scales on both sides. Very robust and useful clasp knife. if a bit large and heavy.

An old sailor told me: in use, open blade and marlin spike, hold in hand with blade ready to cut, spike sticking out the bottom of the hand; good for close in fighting as the spike is under your hand for stabbing and the blade in front for cutting. He wouldn't tell me how he knew this.

The swiss knife is wimpy in for serious work compared to the clasp knife.

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Originally Posted by Daan Kemp

The swiss knife is wimpy

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Far more useful though. I still have it and several others. It was all about weight. I could use the swiss to strip the .30 cal but not the clasp...

Would those with the knowledge be able to assist in the era/vintage of my knife it appears pretty much unused you can just make out the faint /|\ and the No./Letter on the scale pic #1.
TIA....

I think it's WW2 British Navy, here's a thread that you may want to consume... British military clasp knives

Thanks BAR