Best Keyholing I've ever seen

I'm a range safety officer at one of the local ranges. Yesterday a young gentleman approached me concerned about his Enfield No. 4 Mk I. He wanted to know if something was wrong with his rifle and why his bullets were hitting the target sideways. He was shooting at 50 yards.

I couldn't help but start laughing when I looked through the spotting scope and saw how perfect the hols were and the sear number of them. While I have seen keyholing before, I have never seen so many on one target with perfect outlines like this, you can even see the boat-tail. I told him that it was more than likely his ammo and as it turned out he was shooting that garbage Russian Wolf Ammo. Once he tried some PPU everything was fine.

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How about this one? You can even see the grease grooves.

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Still on the target, though! Think of the carnage that would cause if it hit a man at 50 yds. Perish the thought.

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Originally Posted by usabaker

I'm a range safety officer at one of the local ranges. Yesterday a young gentleman approached me concerned about his Enfield No. 4 Mk I. He wanted to know if something was wrong with his rifle and why his bullets were hitting the target sideways. He was shooting at 50 yards.

I couldn't help but start laughing when I looked through the spotting scope and saw how perfect the hols were and the sear number of them. While I have seen keyholing before, I have never seen so many on one target with perfect outlines like this, you can even see the boat-tail. I told him that it was more than likely his ammo and as it turned out he was shooting that garbage Russian Wolf Ammo. Once he tried some PPU everything was fine.

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Thats mighty fine shooting he even got 2 key hole head shots now thats very difficult to do with wayward projectiles........:clap::clap:
Don't like that target anyway get no score for a H/S only C/Mass hits............:thdown:

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Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick

How about this one? You can even see the grease grooves.

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LOL that's pretty sweet too.

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Originally Posted by limpetmine

Still on the target, though! Think of the carnage that would cause if it hit a man at 50 yds. Perish the thought.

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That's was the conversation for the next 30 minute on what a sideways hit would do to a man and a pig.

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Originally Posted by CINDERS

Thats mighty fine shooting he even got 2 key hole head shots now thats very difficult to do with wayward projectiles........:clap::clap:
Don't like that target anyway get no score for a H/S only C/Mass hits............:thdown:

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Yeah I agree, I like this body target..

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I tried one box of the Wolf. After about half the box the rest went into my junk ammo bin.

You guys ought to see what a Vickers MMG does to a target and target stand when shooting Mk.8z through a well worn barrel shot to death with cordite Mk.7!

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Originally Posted by Brian Dick

a Vickers MMG does to a target and target stand when shooting Mk.8z through a well worn barrel

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Yes, that's exactly what it resembles...

Try an AK 74 with Russian surplus 5.45x39, goes right thru a propane tank and after that your guess is a good as mine!

THx Baker,
Best laugh I've had in a while........
Picturing you walking up....... Trying to be all professional ... I'd of lmao.

Thx!

One of my No4's does almost the same thing with some HPBT loads I have for a ross rifle, but with Spitzers no worries at all. Enfields are funny.

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Originally Posted by nijalninja

One of my No4's does almost the same thing with some HPBT loads I have for a ross rifle, but with Spitzers no worries at all. Enfields are funny.

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A spitzer has a longer bearing surface than a boattail of the same weight. It enters the throat more completely than a boattail before losing contact with the neck of the case = better guidance when the bullet is engraved by the rifling.

Boattails in military chambers that tend to be a) more generous than modern standards when new and b) a lot more generous when worn are, quite simply, not the best solution for accuracy.

If a 45-70 Sharps hits the target at 1000 yards with a bullet that is well-nigh cylindrical compared with a cal. 30 jacketed bullet, why on earth would one need a boattail to shoot at a couple of hundred? The loss in precision caused by the poor guidance into the transition cone a.k.a. throat is probably going to outweigh any BC advantage, unless you are only shooting at 600 yds or longer.

Just my 10c. / 10p. (fill in currency of your choice!)

US Army trials I believe, were the ones that showed no difference inside 400 yards between boat tail and flat base ammo. outside 400 yards, boat tail was the winner.

So in essence always have ammo suited for long range work, that works fine at short range.

Well in the real world NO competitive Benchrest shooters use boattail bullets at 100 or 200 yards . They all use flat base bullets because they are more accurate . What the US Army said was the boattail did not increase more percentage wise at longer range , not that they were more accurate .

Gale McMillan of McMillan barrels fame, had this to say:

Boattail bullets (Gale McMillan)