This is the 1st time I've ever seen an ammo. pouch on a M1A1 wire stock, wonder if it was ever used in WW-2 or Korea ? any comment's. I guess it would work.
I saw it on Legacy.
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This is the 1st time I've ever seen an ammo. pouch on a M1A1 wire stock, wonder if it was ever used in WW-2 or Korea ? any comment's. I guess it would work.
I saw it on Legacy.
Just an ordinary belt pouch. The wire stock was detached and the stock slid on. No big deal.
Yea, I know it's a belt pouch, I take it you haven't took apart a wire stock lately [No big deal] just to put on a ammo. pouch. :rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimb16
I just wanted to know if any one else had maybe seen a war time pic. with a pouch on a M1A1 ?
I have seen many pic's of M1's with pouch's on them during WW-2 but not one on a M1A1.
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Originally Posted by lboos
Here's a pic if you can believe it, from the US militaria forum. Don't know as I didn't see this myself.
Caption reads..."Check out this picture. Still from newsreel footage of 551st PIB getting ready to board C-47s for Operation Dragoon, 15 August 1944."
Jim,
Thank's for that pic. that is really interesting. I have never even seen one pic. of one pouch on a M1A1 , this "Hero" has two on his, WOW!
I've always thought that if given a choice, before a shoot out, I'd prefer the Garand. It is easier to reload and if you've ever seen real honest to God infantry with an M1, they have clips all over the place, on pocket flaps, web gear straps, on the sling. Mike force guys would have maybe 7-8 at the ready. The Carbine may hold 15 rounds, but a reload would be a pain in the rear. Additionally bandoleered ammunition for the Garand is handy and easy to get at. The carbine requires opening pouches and securing empty magazines for later (We used to put empty M14 magazines in our shirt) plus you can reload empty M14 mags through to top like an 03. Carrying extra carbine ammunition would be easy since small boxes of 50 could be tossed in the pack or musette bag. Loading it into the magazine wasn't as easy as picking up spent Garand clips (which would be all over the place) and recharged with 8 rounds robbed from a machine gun crew.
For carrying around all day, I'll take the carbine every time.
Lou,
The one picture you added must have been used by a Lefty.
The pic BAR nabbed shows the guy is a righty.
Personally, I don't recall ever seeing a pouch on a folder in any period picture.
Interesting post.
Has your 'Order' came in yet?
Reloading, I'd dread being under pressure trying to load 15 in a carbine mag
Thx
That doesn't work very well with an M1A1 folder since they're only held in place by pressure from the right...but I think you know that...Quote:
Originally Posted by painter777
That pic is the only one I've seen at all.
Charlie,
The order was shipped on Fri. the ETA is Tue. the 12th, am looking forward to it, thank's for the help. I was thinking about putting one ammo. pouch on my M1A1 but don't know if it would be worth the trouble to take the wire stock apart, I do have a pouch on my M1, I think it look's great.
Jim.
The Pic. you posted is the only WW-2 era pic. I have seen also, so glad you took the time to put it up.
My only thought is provenance of the photo. There's a caption and then there's provenance. I guess we have what we have...
FWIW, lboos, I've taken apart many folding stocks. No big deal.... I've put pouches on a couple of them. Easy enough after you have taken 4/5 of them apart. My old man was a glider rider during WWII and said they often did that with their issue M1A1s. BTW, he was a BAR man.;)
Fourth man, rear rank? Was he smaller stature than many?Quote:
Originally Posted by jimb16
Average size...I think it was a little different in the airborne infantry. He got caught in an arty barage once and lost both of his ammo carriers, but never got a scratch himself. Fought in the Bulge too. Always said he was never so cold in his entire life as he was there.
You can actually slide a pouch on an M1a1 stock over the butt plate without removing anything, I just tried it with 3 different pouches and with little effort they all went on and came off.Quote:
Originally Posted by lboos
Yes, I was wondering why people were talking about having to take things apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by W5USMC
I guess if it's possible to attach, then individuals will give it a go.
I can see why a paratrooper might find having extra magazines a good idea, if it didn't increase his drop weight by a meaningful amount.
Perhaps he had previously dropped on D day and found himself running low on ammo.
One of those lights bulb moments that gave him some comfort.