CMP Dutch M1 - Winchester Barrel on 1941 Springfield M1

I recently received a Springfield M1 205XXX from the CMP. I am extremely happy with it.

I did have a question about the barrel. It appears to be a Winchester barrel (faintly marked) with no date. Also, the tag that came with the gun says "DUTCH".

Am I correct in saying the Winchester barrel is a WWII barrel, and may be a field armorer replacement? Is there any way to date Winchester barrels?

Other neat things about the gun:
GI Wood that matches in color and finish
Receiver Park appears to be original
Old blue tooth brush in the butt trap
Milled Trigger Guard

I'm very excited about this rifle. Also, does anyone have anything to say about Dutch M1's?

I'll post pics at some point.

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Originally Posted by jakebevt48

Am I correct in saying the Winchester barrel is a WWII barrel, and may be a field armorer replacement?

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After all this time anything is possible. The barrel could have been changed anywhere along the way by anyone. You'd never know... Barrels were used by serviceability not manufacture. The military doesn't care who made it. Parts were sent to all users and they also would replace with what came to hand.

There's a picture somewhere of Dutch soldiers with both a carbine and rifle...M1s and equipment... This isn't it but... https://www.deviantart.com/theoddbal...tent-763420794

Yes, pics when you can..."Old blue toothbrush"? Like...toothbrush? Looking forward...

Winchester WW2 barrels do not have the name Winchester stamped on the barrel nor date. Replacement barrels made in the later 1960's have the word Winchester in script with the date

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Originally Posted by RCS

Winchester WW2 barrels do not have the name Winchester stamped on the barrel nor date. Replacement barrels made in the later 1960's have the word Winchester in script with the date

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This barrel just has a very faint WP circle proof on the side of the barrel near where the date would normally be. Honestly I wouldn’t have known it was a Winchester proof if I hadn’t seen it more clearly on sporting Winchester’s. The barrel also appears to have a more blackish-blued look to the finish.

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Looks like Greek black park on the op handle.

Yeah the op rod doesn’t match the patina on the rest of the gun. Most likely a cmp replacement.

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Originally Posted by jakebevt48

a CMP replacement

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Or something... What was the grade of this rifle? Rack?

Field grade. External it’s rough, which bothers me not at all. I prefer the been there look on Milsurps, especially Garands. But cool thing is, the barrel is 1+ on muzzle and throat wear. So basically brand new. It’s fairly shiny and I haven’t even run a patch through it yet.

And I agree, the op rod does look like Greek black. I guess the cmp has a big ol’ pile of in spec op rods for rifles that need them—some are probably off Greek Garands.

Let us know how it shoots...probably stellar.

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

Let us know how it shoots...probably stellar.

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Yeah I’ll try to post a range report within the next week or two.

The CMP received Garand returns from Denmark hence the tag should have read Danish but not an uncommon mistake.

Update:

I detail stripped the "Dutch" Garand. I replaced the old recoil spring, greased the rifle with Mobil 1 Synthetic grease, and dropped in a Garand Gear gas plug since I had one on hand.

When I shot it I was shooting at an 8" steel plate at around 50 yards, so I don't have any accuracy to report (well, I guess I can tell you it will hold 16MOA, haha). However, the gun functioned well.

During the detail strip, I found these markings under the rear handguard. Can anyone tell me what they possibly mean? I've googled and haven't had any luck. They are directly on top of the chamber.

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As far as I've been able to learn, the D35448 W.R.A. is just the drawing number for the barrel. However, the other markings directly above the chamber have me puzzled.

Thoughts?

Thanks

Rebuilt at one of the ordinance base shops on March 2, 1945. Specifically OBS #3 but I can’t tell you where it was. Seems that OBS 3 was likely in Brisbane Australia.

Thanks for the info twh!

Pretty neat. After more googling I found pictures of another garand with the exact same markings on the barrel. Must have been stamped on the same day as mine! I did see someone post something interesting about the dates possibly being reversed on some rebuild dates, like in the European style. So I guess it could also be February 3, 1945 too. Either way its within one month, haha.

Very cool that this is a WWII installed barrel.

I wonder if anyone else has more info on these ordinance base shops?

Thanks
Jake

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