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RARE STEN SUB MACHINE GUN MAGAZINE FOR INDIAN TROOPS! - YouTube
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Don't know how to put this...let's see... "HORSEC*CK!" Yes, that's it. That was what I was searching for.
Or as my old mate Robert Trupp, aka 'Bobby Gripweed' - a Barnaby Boy of old, would say, 'Bull's wool!'
Strangely, while I had access to the DGIOB Director General, Indian Ordnance Board papers relating to the Sten gun, I never saw any mention of this very short magazine. You can actually see that it is a 19 round mag that's been shortened. On that basis alone I'd say that this man, whoever he is, was spouting horse manure. I was almost expecting him to say at the end that while these magazines are extremely rare, he has uncovered a small cache and is selling them at a premium to UK naive collectors.
Yeh but, his "standard 32rnd Sten mag" isn't. It's a 19rnd mag.
The short 10 round Sten magazines are an American thing.
A few States have laws restricting magazine capacity to 10 rounds, California, NJ, IL. So, people cut mags down or put plugs in them to restrict them to 10 rounds.
They are also modified for Star Wars blasters.
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Yes. They were both modified to 19 rounds. Then the short one was cut down to 10 rounds. You can see the holes where the brass rods were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying10uk
Sterling did the same, just converted 32 rounders. The good news for Sterling was that they could utilise damaged magazines that had come i from nations who had sent their L2's in for reconditioning. Sell them NEW magazines and use the old dented ones as 10 or 15 rounders. Everyone a winner!
In other words. he's full of more shite than a Christmas turkey!
If I were an Indian, I would be deeply offended by his ridiculous comments. 2.5 million Indian troops served in WWII. 87,000 died.
He’s spouting Fake History, like the Fake “News” media today. There’s no truth in it. It’s nothing but dross.
Looks like he’s an avid collector. I hope he doesn’t give the rest a bad name.
I like your turn of phrase Brian! In Australia we had plenty of sayings/phrases like that, that I quickly learned! When I got back to the UK, they thought I was talking in a foreign language!
"...short 10 round STEN magazines are an American thing..." Nope. CF had 10 round mags for our Sterlings. Armoured crew used 'em. I'd be very surprised if the STEN didn't have a 10 rounder for the same reason. Nothing to do with the U.S. or India. And Stateside a STEN requires the Class 3 permit regardless of where they are. Or if it's still FA or not. Daft State mag capacity laws are the least problem. Gunparts will sell you what they say is a "surplus" 20 round STEN mag.
Don't get your training on YouTube. Anybody with internet access can post any daft nonsense they want there.
Does anyone have an overall length of the 10 rnd Sten mag please? I don't have a "rare" 10 rnd Sten mag in my collection of normal length Sten mags but I could do if I was to hack a bit off the end of one.
You don't have ANY IDEA what you're talking about...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunray
Measured at the back, using the standard follower, they run from 4+7/8” to 5”.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying10uk
Since the spring is shortened to 13 coils, you can cut the mag to 4+3/4” and shorten the standard follower ¼”.
I don’t have a “super rare” shortened one made from an Indian converted 19 round mag. The followers are modified in the Indian mags. You might have to add a little length to compensate or take more off the bottom of the follower.
I wonder if he has a “ultra rare” 7.62x25mm Tokarev Sten mag.
That would be a hoot, specially with a case of 1200 at your feet and about twenty mags...and of course the gun. Easy enough to do I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent
Amazing, the utter rubbish some people spout, good grief....
I guess that's the horse shite that was fed to him when he bought it.
I have Mags of any capacity you require!......Hang on! Ill just get my Hacksaw & Welder out!....Opps! Gave myself away there! How silly of Me!.... :runaway:
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Originally Posted by mrclark303
I suppose it's only a matter of time before someone "produces" an ultra rare drum mag for a Sten.:yikes: Possible I suppose if the end was hacked off a standard mag and welded onto a PPSH-41 drum mag. :thup: Would be fine in the UK where it would only be looked at :cool:, but a problem in the US where someone may actually try to use it :thdown:. :lol:
As a bit of an aside to the thrust of the thread, the only Indian troops that turned their backs in Malaya were the Garwalhis (sorry about the spelling) who were referred to by all as 'The Galloping Garwhalis'. The Sikhs and Punjabis were murdered at Tanglin ranges for their refusal to turn.
Flying10uk,
Most of the Sten drums here are made just as you describe. There’s a little more to it. Internal spacers are added to convert the Sten mag section into single stack and a string of dummy rounds are added to the drum follower to push the rounds through the Sten mag section. The 72 round Suomi drums are most common. They are cheaper and more plentiful here than the PPsH drums. They are both surprisingly reliable. The downside is they are heavy and you have all that weight hanging on one side. The MFG 50 round drum for the Sig MPX and the double Uzi drum are much more user friendly.
My favorites are still the iconic Thompson drums. They just ooze nostalgia and they really shouldn’t be clean without a good brandy and Cuban cigar.
I had one for years and once I figured out what to actually wind it to, it never failed again...wasn't 9 or 11 as marked either. Yes it was an"L". Looked great and unmistakable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent