No5 Jungle Carbine Bayonet

A friend recently picked up this bayonet sold as a No5 which I believe it is. I also would think it is real and not some Indian made Knockoff. However I can't find much info and there isn't much to go off of. No markings on the blade except electro pencil 922. Scabbard button has E and looks like maybe S? Grip has 48 marked on it. The only thing I could come up with is it was issued for the 1948 Malaysian Emergency. Any info would be great.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...63cf22a7-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ff6929fd-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...2b3a0b07-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...dfc83866-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...4e80853b-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...fb6fa0e9-1.jpg

It looks genuine to me. I'll venture a guess that it's made by Elkington in 1945 and if you look real close on the top of the blade next to the guard, you'll find a small "M78" stamped there which was the makers code for them.

To say that there isn't a lot of info about these bayonets on this very forum beggars belief.............. If I was you I'd take the grips off it, put the screws and nuts back in and send it to Brian at BDL and ask him nicely, when he's next doing a big pile of bead blasting, phosphating, painting and baking, would he strip the catch, spring and bolt out of it and put it in with the others together with the scabbard. Then when it returns in a month, Yoiu'll have a virtually brand new No5/SMG bayonet worth a lot of money

It looks like the real deal to me also but there is no clean out hole. I thought all originals had clean out holes.

Good observation there. I still think it's original too. Maybe it was assembled from original parts post WWI.

So Malaysian Emergency 1948 is off base?



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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

To say that there isn't a lot of info about these bayonets on this very forum beggars belief.............. If I was you I'd take the grips off it, put the screws and nuts back in and send it to Brian at BDL and ask him nicely, when he's next doing a big pile of bead blasting, phosphating, painting and baking, would he strip the catch, spring and bolt out of it and put it in with the others together with the scabbard. Then when it returns in a month, Yoiu'll have a virtually brand new No5/SMG bayonet worth a lot of money

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Sarcasm? Honestly I don't know who BDL is but I'm guessing someone who humps stuff?

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As I said the one posted originally a friend bought and I couldn't find any answers about 48 on grips and no markings.

Here is mine not the greatest pics.https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...b259f045-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...1d8cf945-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...a26a0daa-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...50fd40ac-1.jpg

There are a lot of discussions about these on these forums. Seems like every time someone finds a new one we start all over again.

No idea on the 1948 Malaysian Emergency but I would doubt the 48 has anything to do with that.

Brian has a good reputation for restoring these bayonets. His info is on here somewhere.

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Originally Posted by capt14k

Sarcasm? Honestly I don't know who BDL is but I'm guessing someone who humps stuff?

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Pretty funny...would be Brain Dick Ltd and he's a front line gunsmith... It was being suggested he would refurbish your blade to as new. He's the same poster that answered you in post #2.

Now how do you feel?

Hump stuff, me? Well, I try every chance i get! I like them between 5' - 5'7" tall with long hair and big t-ts.:lol:

Seriously, since I'm probably the only person in the USA that has the correct original paint, good luck getting it done right somewhere else.

Perhaps the clearing hole is there but is completely filled with dirt and hardened grease/cosmoline?

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

Pretty funny...would be Brain Dick Ltd and he's a front line gunsmith... It was being suggested he would refurbish your blade to as new. He's the same poster that answered you in post #2.

Now how do you feel?

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Honestly I had no idea who he was talking about or if he was serious or not. I guess I'm more used to K98kforum and even more so RMNF where refinishing is highly frowned upon. RMNF they frown upon putting the right parts back on a rifle. Didn't mean any offense since I had no clue he was talking about you.

No offense taken by me. I've been doing correct restorations for many years but don't consider it faking when it's done to the original specifications and with the original Suncorite 259 baking paint. When my paint supply is exhausted, I won't be doing any more. In the case of the bayonet shown, it's really worth much more in nice FTR, (Factory Thorough Repair), condition than as a rusty piece of junk as Peter says. It would have most certainly been back to a workshop for refinish if it had stayed in service. That's just my opinion of course having resurrected many rifles and bayonets from the dead over the past 25 years or so. I just finished two No.4T rifles. Both sent here as what I call "brown bag specials". One with a chopped barrel and missing front scope pad, the other with original barrel but drilled and tapped for a receiver sight and a missing the rear scope pad. Both are now range ready and as close to perfect as damn is to swearing. One is restored completely including the rustproofing and the other left with original metal finish at the customer's request and restored with worn, original finish parts. My point is that when some of these items are so far gone, there's no detriment to restoring them.