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Afternoon fellow milsurpers.
I've given up looking, but does anyone remember a few years back when someone here posted images of a bitsa Franken Fal, .22 semi auto build.
Folding stock, solid barrel, Fal reciver, inch pattern trigger group, HK blow back bolt group etc...
I seem to recall the owner had issues with the odd inadvertent 'burst of automatic' .
Anyone with a better memory than me (just about everyone), or better search skills?
Can't find it either and don't remember it. I know we've discussed .22 conversions though. Are you going to make a .22 barrel for one? It shouldn't run FA unless your trigger mech is faulty. I shot lots of the HK kit with the regular C1 and had none of it unless I altered things...
Hi Jim,
Thanks for looking mate.
I remember the post about 2 years ago, someone joined in mid thread from memory with a .22 Fal 'bitsa' build they were having occasional automatic fire problems with.
I seem to recall the "group advice" was to ensure the reciver rails were clean and not obstructed if that helps ring any bells....
The guy bought the piece and no idea as to its history.
He posted a picture of the metric/inch mixmaster and I've been trying to find it in connection with a good friends upcoming project rifle...
I'll look again but hard to find without more hints for search... The .22 cal and the insert should do it but don't. Still, all in good repair and good ammo...should be no auto fire.
Cheers Jim,
Ill have to sit and have a really methodical look through...
Problem is, it was a mid thread interruption from memory
Any FAL .22 semi-auto build would cost a fortune now. Probably did when the guy did the one you're thinking about was built too. As far as I know there were no .22 calibre FAL barrels. Making one would be astronomically expensive. Might have been an FNC with a chamber insert though. Only FAL .22's I've ever heard of were a barrel insert and breech block the CF had.
"...occasional automatic fire..." That'd likely be caused by the ammo. Target velocity vs Standard or High Velocity would probably do it. Shot with a guy who had a semi'd Uzi that'd rock and roll with cast bullet ammo.
Nope, just make a normal barrel, no gas port and just follow the dimensions. Nothing special.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunray
Poor ammo will only make it fail to function. You'd need to have used one to know that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunray
You're talking about two completely different systems of operation, you need to study them and learn to tell them apart.
There was a purpose built .22LR semi-auto FAL produced by Imbel in Brazil many years ago. They pop up for sale every now and again. A friend of mine in Modesto, California imported several of them if memory serves.
Unfortunately, that could cause bankruptcy in a F/A state, you'd go through far too much ammo...Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Dick
Here's some poop on it though... FAL training rifles from Brazil -The Firearm Blog
Interesting article. The ones imported to the USA were all semi-auto only. Imbel, (Brazil), and FMAP, (Argentina), FAL's and other FN clones, both pistols and rifles, were licensed by FN and the quality is excellent.
I have to say Imbel make excellent Fals, top notch quality.
Our SP examples we're based on US civilian rifles, lacking the auto sear and and bolt carrier sear trip extension.
A mate used to have one of the Imbel Para Fals in .22, it was the rifle that encouraged me to pursue a .22 semi kit for my L1A1s.
Well, you should actually be able to do it by having the barrel turned...and you'll need the HK Breech mech or Imbel...and of course mags. Would look like a standard rifle.
John, Just thinking out the box, maybe it was in the .22 Forum ? or maybe Gunboards ?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclark303
Hi Geoff,
Still searching, maybe it was in the .22 section, problem is it was a question posted mid thread by a UK chap who had issues with this build occasionally firing more than one round per pull of the trigger ..
I just can't find the bloody thing.
Just found this thread... It was my Franken-FAL. (Are you sure you didn't see it on FALFiles?)
The unwanted but equally entertaining burst firing was cured by cutting the chamber (& hence rim recess) slightly deeper. The bolt hitting the back of case occasionally set one off! Was eventually diagnosed by looking at the back of the fired cases...
The barrel was an Anshutz that had been re-purposed from it's original home. No idea who built it originally, but I'm about to embark on the same project again... (A friend of mine now owns the original one.)
Hi Nick,
I was beginning to think I had dreamt it up!
Any chance you could post a few pics here and love to hear some more information on your new build.
Will this one be based on an L1A1 receiver and TMH?
I'll try and find some pictures of the old one....
I have a new L1A1 receiver, an Imbel Para lower half and a L12A1 bolt assembly for the new build. I need to find a blueprint for an L1A1 barrel for the new build, but I can pretty much make something up if I need to! I also need to get some dimensions from the chamber adapter for the chamber end.
Here's the receiver...
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...9jpgraw1-1.jpg
Both Armalon and Southpoint Firearms produce barrels for L1A1 straight-pulls. Might be worth a friendly phone call to either of them?
John, I think this was Nick's original thread with pics but hopefully he will confirm? https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=58337Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclark303
Cheers Kev, I couldn't find that thread anywhere...
This is the current state of the Mk2 Franken-FAL!
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...sjpgraw1-1.jpg
All painted..
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...yjpgraw1-1.jpg
and back together...
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...yjpgraw1-1.jpg
Bit of proper work to do for the next parts now though!
Great work Nick, inch or metric gas block for this one!
What length barrel are you going for, it would look very cool Congo length.....
Probably inch (just because it's easier to get hold of one!) It will be a shorter barrel - not fixed a length in mind yet - just what looks 'right'!Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclark303