Just acquired a 1897 takedown 12 ga. and am interested in converting to a trench gun. My question right now is was the butt stock sling swivel used on then it`s own design or did they use a 1903 Springfield type?
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Just acquired a 1897 takedown 12 ga. and am interested in converting to a trench gun. My question right now is was the butt stock sling swivel used on then it`s own design or did they use a 1903 Springfield type?
1903 type like most of the others.
Just an FYI, the trench gun used the non-takedown model.
I can`t remember where but I believe I have read that about 25,000 takedown versions were delivered for WWII?? I would love to know if that is true. Haven't bought Canfields book yet.
WW1 Winchester model 97 trench guns were solid frame and WW2 Winchester model 97 trench guns were take down
The rear sling swivel has a smaller base than one on the Model 1903 Winchester used it on their rifles and shotguns so you need to find a Winchester rear sling swivel
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Between 1941 and 1944 there were 40,642 Winchester model 97's of all types procured about 33,000 were trench guns
Would that be the same one Winchester used on the m1917 possibly? I have a couple of those.
Well I bungled that answer haha.
I’ve learned some new stuff here!
No the M1917 is different the Winchester sling swivel has a smaller base then the one's found on the 03 or 1917
I still learn new things all the time when it comes to collecting military shotguns
While it did resemble the '03 swivel, the Winchester trench guns (M97 and M12) used a proprietary swivel that was smaller than the '03 swivel and had a slightly different configuration. BTW, the WWI M97s were solid frame but the WWII production guns were take-down.
Thank you Sir, I really need to buy your books. I have just started down the Trechgun wormhole. I do not intend to try to fake a Real gun just want to make as near as possible of an affordable version of one. So I would take it I should look for a 4 row heat shield to make my takedown gun WWII correct?
I have a spare soft cover book by Bruce I will send you if you PM me your address to ship. It will just appear. I have two.Quote:
Originally Posted by M1 C FAN
What an incredibly generous offer Sir. Thank you so much PM sent. I hope I can repay the favor someday.
Not problem...quite welcome.
Yes, only the very early WWII trench guns had the six row handguard. Most were of the four row variety.
The gun I purchased SR# 894964 has a 30" full choke barrel that I am not going to cut. If anyone has experience with them,What is the opinion of the after market barrels being sold by Numrich? Also so for a conversion I`m thinking all I need for parts would be the bayonet mount/heat shroud, barrel, rear swivel, sling and magazine plug? I already have an extra 1917 bayonet.