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Hi All, I’ve been sitting and flip flopping around on this one almost a month now. I have an opportunity to buy a USED Remington 700 ADL in .270Win in near new condition for $250.00 with the transfer fee and shipping it rolls out to about $325.00. Would make a nice hunting rifle if it worth it.
Anyone have experience with these rifles?
Thanks in advance
Bill
You mean a Remington ADL right? I had one in Remington ADL in .223 for goat culling and could't fault it for accuracy or function. That being noted, I wasn't a big fan of the blind magazine and having to cycle the rounds through to empty the magazine at the end of a hunt.
Well yes, I really flubbed that one up LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi
That is one of My concerns as well but I thought I might tolerate the issue based on price.Quote:
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Thanks for your thoughts
Bill
Although I wasn't a fan of the blind mag in the ADL (having previously owned a Brno ZKK 601), I now own a Kimber Montana and that's a blind mag rifle! The blind mag does mean there is one less thing to look after and worry about blood or rust on it which is important in my hunting as I do mostly bush stalking in the hills. Lots of one handed carrying where the mag plate would be located, so I don't have to worry too much about it getting dirty or bloody.
One thing I am wondering about. With all of my bolt actions i/p pretty sure I don't need to cycle the bolt or drop the floorplate to get the rounds out. I can just push the rounds forward to release them from the magazine. Is this not possible on the ADL?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi
Don't get wrapped up about unloading it after use. It'll be fine. You can develop the knack of pressing down on the bullet and popping the back end out so it just dumps out. Yes the price is good even where you are. That's not much to pay for a 700 Rem in good shape. Yes they're accurate. I've been using them for years and currently have one in heavy barrel and a Bell and Carlson stock for shooting small groups. $325 USD makes it $427 CDN and still OK here. .270 is a very flat shooting, commonly available cartridge too.
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Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Jim, I was pretty sure I've unloaded this way before. I really appreciate the input and feedback from you and the group.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
In my opinion the Remington 700 ADL at that price is a good buy. Jack O’Connor (an old time gun writer) believed that the 270 Winchester was one of the best rounds ever developed.
If you are still concerned about the “blind:” magazine, there are a couple of possible solutions. It has been a long time since I built a rifle, but once I bought a Remington 722 (the forerunner of the 700) because I wanted to build a .308/762 target rifle and the 722 was the short action version of the 721. I do not know what the situation with obtaining parts from the various manufacturers is today. They are:
Order a 700 BDL trigger guard assembly from Remington. Since the rifle is in 270, it would take the standard action trigger guard assembly. You may also need to order the magazine box or you could probably cut down your box to fit. The ADL magazine is longer than the BDL magazine. At the time I bought my TG Assembly they cost ~$10.00. They ae a lot more expensive today-I believe.
At one time there was a company making a direct replacement. It was made out of steel instead of the Remington assembly. I think that I see them advertised occasionally in newer gun magazines.
A problem that you may well encounter is that you will have to inlet the TG into the present stock. Since the blind magazine rifle probably has no opening in the bottom. When I built my rifle I installed a target stock so I had no problem. You may well be able to go on line and find a used BDL stock and trigger guard assembly.
If you elect to inlet the present stock, I would suggest that you drill some very large holes (but smaller the magazine well) in the bottom of the magazine well from the outside Then with a keyhole saw open the holes until you can use a wood rasp to match the bottom opening with the box size. If you use this method, always rasp from the outside to the inside so as not to damage the stock by breaking off splinters. I would suggest that you can use a rough rasp to get close, the switch to a fine rasp and stoke it careful.
FWIW
Yes, a stock for a long action is available online, many have chosen to replace their wood stock with poly or others...and the trigger guard is now either aluminum or other material. Steel is old pattern and commands a premium. I just bought a used floorplate that as new cost $100 CDN. They can be had cheaper for a used. The inside box would be extra...you can use your follower and spring. If I was doing that, I'd just buy the stock and bottom metal. Problem is, all that will push the cost up and negate the savings...
The factory trigger guard assy is some alloy but there was a US commercial making a steel replacement for~$200. I have seen some used 700 BDL stock for !$100 and some TG Assys for about the same price. I agree it would take the rifle up ~ $150 to $200.
FWIW
I ended up buying the rifle. I was warned on the Winchester Collectors Group (Yeah I know... lol) about a Recall on the XMP triggers I was able to find the info on Remingtons site and validate that the rifle for sale had been fixed by Remington. Now I have to wait for shipping and the California Waiting Period so I won't range test it until late Feb or March.Quote:
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I won't be modding the rifle to a BDL unless I end up changing out the stock at some point; it depends on how well the ADLs stock is. Thanks for the Info!
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Yes, my thought exactly. I would do it only if the factory ADL stock was causing accuracy (minute of Deer) issues and I could not work them out by bedding and other fixes.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
So, it'll likely shoot just fine but we'll be standing around here waiting anyway...
If you google Williams Firearms Company you will find some milled rigger guard assemblies but they run ~$200 + and requiire a lot in letting to fit into your ADL stick
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I don't think it would be worth messing around with the synthetic stock. If I were to go the BDL route I would more then likely get a Boyds or BDL a take off wood stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosine26
No that I have bought this thing, and some new die for it. Does anyone have suggestions on a bullet weight? For hunting, I'll have to go lead-free in CA but for the range, I can go with a lead bullet. Never owned a .270Win so not sure if this caliber is partial to a certain weight. Thanks in advance.
$325 isn't a great price if it has no scope. MSRP on a BNIB, scoped, synthetic stocked, ADL is $525. Have a look at the price of one in a local shop first.
Mind you, a .270 will kill any game in North America with a change of bullet.
And it's a hunting rifle. The mag capacity doesn't matter. Don't think CA allows battle rifle mag capacity for hunting anyway.
If you look before replying, you'll see he already has this rifle...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunray