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So I am looking at purchasing a Thompson for my collection. Not owning a money tree I need to settle with a Kahr arms semi-auto. So I see some very vocal people who have gotten bad rifles. I know the people who are disappointed always are the loudest. What is the opinion of the Kahr rifles from those who own one??? Good, Bad and Ugly I would love to know.
If you're OK with used, there was someone on here (I think, may have been CMP) selling an AO Thompson semi a few weeks ago...
Russ
Would prefer new depending. I don`t want to spend over a $1000 dollars on garbage. Does anyone one have an opinion they are willing to share on the new Kahr Arms Thompsons?
Go to ; MachineGunBoards.com. these folks will answer all your questions .:thup:
Hmmm, in all my years I never realized used guns were garbage. Thanks for setting me straight!Quote:
Originally Posted by M1 C FAN
Russ
Its that "New Thing" RASelkirk which is good that leaves pristine sleepers for others to buy, like my Tricolore 1199 S Ducati 2012 model with allot of carbon fiber and Ducati engine performance upgrades yep it was second hand but had only done 1,500 KLm (932.0568 miles) in 7 years which I got for $30,000/AUD less than the new price yeah was a bit dirty & dusty but I can live with a bike thats done @200 Klms(124.274 miles)a year. It really sparkles now I'm so glad it was garbage 2nd hand gear............................:bow:
Nice one Jim thing is once sold they are extremely hard to get back but thanks for share and the pics nice rig indeed we here can only read and dream about full autos as they are on a prohibited license and to get one here in West Au well I may as well get a shovel and look for the rocking horse doodoo at the end of the rainbow with that pot of gold don't you know.:dancingbanana:
Wow so apparently no one really reads these before stating an opinion. Never once did I say the originals were garbage.... don`t know how that came about. I am asking about the new ones. I have never seen a real Thompson for $1500.00 if someone has one for sale please let me know. Like I said before I have a modest collection of service rifles with an even more humble income to acquire more with. The new Kahr arms can be bought for $1000-1500.00. If I had $25000.00+ to spend I would love to have a real one. I just thought I could get a simple opinion on this site. No one makes the Semi-autos that are like the originals. But here is the question "Should I just settle never having a copy simply because I don`t have endless disposable income?? From the responses I have seen I should just forget it if I can`t pony-up the cash... I have seen a lot of good and bad opinions about the new ones and was simply looking for opinions about the rifles.
My point was that 2nd handies or even non originals produced by others can be of good manufacture and not garbage, those that are not so well made usually go out of business pretty quick and always as usual there can be non original lemons to point out a lemon for you my friend brought brand new off the shelf Remington 700 in 22/250 it went back 3 times to the manufacturer had a new barrel fitted by them and so on. The shop that sold it custom builds 1/4 MOA rifles consistently but nothing they tried as well under warranty etc made that thing any better than a 5 MOA rifle and for a 22/250 thats garbage for a Kangaroo shooter. Gave it back to Remington brought another brand in 22/250.Quote:
Originally Posted by M1 C FAN
A person may say a things garbage but you don't know how they shoot or in fact treat a weapon best to do the research on other gun boards or try and demo one in the U S you guys well can get just about anything even tanks to play with a replica Thompson should be easy to source :thup:
Thanks Cinders. normally they would be easy to find in the USA last week. This week the site that had 10 available have zero. Times are changing fast might just have to consider spending my cash on more effective gear like a "TANK"... lol. My question is about Kahr arms in general. Never shot any of their firearms and just looking for thoughts. Really have no hopes of ever affording a real one.
Jim, I don`t know how anyone got anything other than a request for an opinion on KAHR arms? My comment was I don`t want to spend $1000+ on a KAHR arms rifle if the consensus is garbage. Then it just went south from there. I have grown to trust your opinions on here. Are you saying you recently purchased the beautiful rifle you showed for $1000? What a buy. I haven`t seen anything close to that. So what would you suggest a poor man to do? What manufacturer would you recommend? I haven`t seen any Semi-autos in my price range by any other manufacturer (is there any other company making them?) and the $25k for an auto Is far beyond hope. I`m simply looking for opinions from people who have owned one was it worth it or just a jammomatic pain? Not trying to be confrontational in any way. HOPE EVERYONE STAYS SAFE HAPPY AND HEALTHY.
Thank You Jim, I know a new polished turd is still just s##t. That rifle of yours is very nice. Can`t sell the kids so one like that is out of the question. Going to think it over may have to just consider another M1 Garand. Really want an International Harvester to go with my International Business Machine. Hope all are safe and healthy.
YOUR RIGHT, I HAD TO GRAB A HANKY. Unbelievable.
I've had a few different variants of the semi-autos made by Numrich/Auto Ordnance through my shop and found them all to be rough as a cob but functional. Guessing the Kahr Arms variants are much the same but I can't speak from experience. There is a gunsmith in Colorado, (Paul Krogh of Diamond K), who can tune any of them up to near perfect if the need arises. Like Jim, (oh yeah, that's a real piece of junk 1928 with it's original Dulite blue finish Jim!), I have a Savage M1A1 made in 1943 that was mailed back in pieces to South Carolina by the Marine who carried it on Iwo Jima. It was turned into the Edgefield Chief of Police and registered during the 1968 amnesty. I traded seven BFI XM15E2S HB carbines, ammo and accessories for it back in 2005 knowing full well that it'd be a bit of a project. I bought a nos cut up Savage M1A1 parts kit at KCR, Kentucky when they were cheap and freshly imported from the UK who got them out of Russia. I had the barrel changed as it was trashed from corrosive ammo and no care. I also replaced the pistol grip as the original was broken. It ain't the prettiest M1A1 out there but it's mostly original and all Savage. It runs like a well oiled machine and will stay with me into the forseeable future. Oh yeah, I'm embarrassed to say that it's pictured in the Osprey booklet on the TSMG as done by Martin Pegler. He described it as having been on Guadalcanal which was annoying but fits with his track record of mythological writings in his books and lack of attention to detail! Changing the subject a bit, I see Bruce Canfield is perpetrating mythology too in the April 2020 American Rifleman magazine on page 40 by telling the owner of a Savage No.4 that the first thousand didn't have the "US Property" stamp. Considering we've beat that horse to death here and have seen sn. OC1 which has the mark, I was disappointed. God bless these authors and editors for doing their job but I wish more attention to detail would be observed. Maybe they should have a look over here on Milsurps.com from time to time!
This is my first post here. I've fired the Kahr/Auto-Ordnance Thompson. They shoot good, as far as I could tell. From my perspective, the 16" barrel just doesn't look right. Were I you, go the SBR (short-barreled rifle) route. That way, you'll have the look, without the price. Let us know what you decide to do.
So she is not a Carbine She is a 16" Rifle for sure. No SBR... far too little patients to wait. But she has ran 500rds with 2 jams. My wife was holding the magazine each time it jammed. Very accurate wish it came with windage adjustable sights. she does shoot about 3" left at 25yds. But over all very happy with it.
I purchased both a Numrich/Auto Ordnance semi-automatic M1 and M1927A1 when they first came out back in the 1970's. There is no comparison between the full auto and semi-auto models. Over the years I shot original guns and they are works of art. The semi-autos I had to send out to get work on them performed to make a functional firearm out both of them. They are more of an expensive novelty item then a reliable firearm.
We can find a few originals here, but modified for semiautomatic fire only. Too bad.
Prices can be steep, but sometimes surprisingly "low", at 1200 € or so.
That is also something I'd look for sooner or later.
But first i need, yes need, a 1911 (even a modern one) and a revolver in .45LC.
My dream would be a S&W 25-2 or -3, 6" or 6.5". Some pop up every now and then, but man...are they expensive.
The machining is very crisp, I cut myself on the bottom of the receiver the first time i pulled it apart. The machining is tight. No problems but the 2 jams. As good or better than some of my semi-autos. Have another 250 rds through it now. So 750rds =2 jams. Pretty happy no work needed to make it run.
She is a fun way to get rid of excess ammo. my only real problem was the first purchase. ordered from Pennsylvania. Got to my FFL OPENED IT UP AND ALL THERE WAS WAS THE RIFLE... NO MAGS, NO MANUAL NOTHING BUT THE RIFLE. SHOULD OF HAD THE 50RD DRUM AND 20RD MAG.
So Elk Country Ammo in PENN. Said they didn`t even open the case before they sent it?????? very busy they said. OK.... call Mark at Kahr arms they told me. Called and gave him my serial number and 2 days latter everything but the drum arrived. They told me it was on backorder and would be sent ASAP. I Have to say Kahr arms customer service was great just wish they had put the kit together right the first time. So haven`t had a chance to try it with the drum yet.
M1 C Fan; this is the place to go to answer you questions:
http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/:beerchug:
Sorry; just trying to be helpful. Do you have something against folks looking at more than one site? This is a good site and so it the one in question, I look at both for information. I will not do it again!:bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Found this years ago at a gun show, bought for the fancy walnut. Plan to sell it in the futureAttachment 107176Attachment 107177
That`s a beautiful piece of wood RCS.
Three months later received my drum magazine. First try ran 5 rounds and the follower was dragging and the bolt slammed it and bent it and the feed rails inside when it closed. Turned out three of the arms dragged when the drum was assembled and the burrs on the edge of the follower grabbed the rim on every fifth round. So instead of throwing it in the blackberry bushes i waited until the next day and spent 4 hrs. straightening and deburring the brand new drum and now it rips through cartridges without a hitch. I am happy with it now but wish they would use a little better QC at the factory on those drums. Found my 2 jams i have had with the stick mags have been a week spring in a used mag. Now that is fixed too and i can`t make it jam. OVER ALL VERY HAPPY WITH IT.
All Colt and some contractor drums had nickel plated rotors, needed to be greased with a special tool periodicallyAttachment 109384