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What is this!
Looks like a fin stabilised armoured car round, about 90mm. Could be HEAT, HE, ... Black? To make it look tacticool?
A social distancing round? :madsmile:
Sorta Daan on the right track, bit more to see! 303 round bottom Rt for scale.
It's a huge fin stabilized recoil-less rifle round, black for AP...(?)
106 mm recoiless rifle round.
Last 2 correct Jims bang on correctly nailed it a 106mm HEATFS round I should dig out when I took the head apart it has the copper cone in there for the shaped charge I aquired it off a member here for a good price in a bulk lot that was agreeable to us both and I am very happy with the outcome of some of the items after a smidge of TLC and limited resto.
I already had the case just not the hardware that went in it.
Projectiles are scarce. We shot lots of them both heat and practice...didn't know I needed to pick up all the ones that missed during winter as they would be caught by snow and be perfect. Didn't think they'd be valuable these days, 40 years on...
Found it this is before I mini resto'ed it but you can see the shaped cone the wire looking piece on the left is that from the fuse to the charge that sits behind the cone!
Its a fairly hefty projectile as the walls are quite thick I suppose to hold together whilst the penetration happens of the armour.
Only the molten jet of steel penetrates the armor. The copper cone holds the explosive in shape. When it blows the explosion melts everything and makes it a molten slug that burns through the armor, leaving a small hole where it enters... Any left lying around after firing had huge rifling marks on the outside. So, yours was deactivated from live.
It is a TPTP round, Target Practice Trace Projectile, coloured black as opposed to the Mil. green HEAT round.
The insides are identical to the real thing, but the charge area is filled with white clay to maintain weight, the piezio ignition is for the base trace charge.
Just to avoid confusion, as the 84mm Carl Gustav also had a TPTP round, the round for the 106 RCL was actually called Cartridge QF 106mm, but to avoid confusion with the American training round, which was similar to HEP and not in Australian service, it was simply called TPT Projectile .
The Australian made round having a tracer element whereas the American practice round did not.
See...our practice rounds were painted blue. And lay everywhere out there on the range until a level one clearance was done, then they were loaded into trucks for disposal. Same filler, just a plaster type thing.
a recoilless rifle round.Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
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I also found this pic of when I had finished the paint resto of the markings on it.
Here is a projectile I may as well keep rolling with the bigger stuff I have collected along the way, additionaly mounted in its correct case next to my largest case (Black thing is a bug killer in the rear).
I have since aquired a better case for it.
Garrand 30/06 clip for scale.
Left is M456A2 Heat-T round, except blue for practice? The right one is a 120 mm?
Pretty much bang on with it Jim its from a Leopard 1 a HEAT Prac round for the 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A3 L/52 rifled gun.
The Brass case next to it is not what you think its from a RAN Destroyer that was in RAN service based on a USA design. You are close Jim but not quite right.........
I first thought it was an 88mm anti aircraft. There's one for sale hereabout right now without projectile.
Is it the 4.7 navy gun? Like this one?
Nope our last destroyers like the Perth were of an American design and had the remote controlled 5" gun;
"The 5-inch/54-calibre (Mk 45) lightweight gun is a modern naval artillery gun mount consisting of a 5-inch (127mm) L54 Mark 19 gun on the Mark 45 mount. It is designed to be used for Naval Gunfire Support and against surface targets."
Thanks for having a go Jim.
Hard to fathom the length of it without scale. The Leopard round should be enough for me but I'd forgotten how big they were, I had two brass cases here for a few years until the move from East coast to West coast and I shed them. Wish that hadn't happened. I'm sure someone would have bought them from me by now anyway, that's a lot of brass...yours is a meter tall with projectile. 39.6 inches to be exact...Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
You may be mistaken here.. the NATO standard colouring for Anti Armour is Black, Practice is Blue, HE is green, smoke is Eau de nile and illuminating is white.. I think Aus is still in NATO, and this is what we taught your ATOs in UK!Quote:
Originally Posted by muffett.2008
The piezo element is part of an impact fuze, and would not be connected to a tracer element.. tracers are normally ignited by the propellant..
... here is one for you!
Attachment 108119
...and for extra points, where was it made?