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Has anyone seen or had an ENFIELD .45acp? I was wondering around the net and found a site that sells these 45acp conversions for the Enfield rifles, these fit the No1, No4, No5, and Indian versions.
Since I have two No4 Indian barreled receivers and a bunch of parts I was thinking about building one of these; looked like an interesting build.
http://www.troupsystems.com/Enfield/enfield.htm
I looked at this project a while back. I thought I remembered that the two sources for the kits had discontinued them. Perhaps I need to revisit the idea as I have a sportered No 4 that would make an ideal starting point.
Pretty hard to beat at that price!
I recently won a lot of Enfield stuff someone was working on at auction. Looks like this may have been their plan eventually...just a different method.
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Here is a current link. Rhineland Arms etsablished 1999 price up to $180 but still seems doable.
The extractor, bolt face, and ejector will need considerable modification to ensure reliable operation.
And don't forget a good solid integral suppressor design for it .
:madsmile: Chris
The Delisle is my holy grail. Retro cool in its purest form. Sentry suppression. Perhaps the closest thing to the movie version of a "silencer sound".Quote:
Originally Posted by emmagee1917
Interesting. I have a synthetic stock lying around here somewhere and a barreled receiver or two. May have to do some digging this weekend to see what I can come up with.
We did a couple here years ago with .45 barrel blanks and machined to spec. We used short throw bolts and one was single shot, the other a mag fed from 1911 mags. Both worked just great with existing bolt face and ejector screw. To make it suppressed is pretty simple from there, the bullet is already sub sonic...
Looks that way Nice find..Quote:
Originally Posted by rcathey
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$180.00 still seems like a good price for a cool little project rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY
No , there are several good ones . My .45 M3 and M3A1s with Ciener cans are quieter being fired than being dry fired . The brass case keeps the bolt from hitting the rear of the barrel , quieting it more than the muzzle blast increases it . The first time I fired mine , I thought the mag was not all the way in and the gun didn't feed a round . then came the sound of the bullet going through the cardboard , then the brass case bouncing off the concrete . I thought " Nooooo " , but the bolt was locked back . Several of my .22s in pistol and 4-1/2 AR15 mode as well as 9" 3oo Black out with 220 grain subs are not much louder .Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY
Chris
I had an M3A1 years ago and a can to match and used to go through ten mags in fifteen minutes. I had to gather brass with a broom and grain scoop. You could hear the bullets impacting on the target backstop and the cases jingling...sure made it hot though.Quote:
Originally Posted by emmagee1917
I have used the Rheinland arms rifle kits. Built the 45acp, 7,62x39, 450 blackout. All on Mauser actions. There a little modifications needed. The kits do not come with the magazine release. But when built they never stay long on the sale table.
Here's what's achievable if you've got a No4 receiver knocking around - a DeLisle Mk4 (T) :) (Actually an LEI Delisle MkIII that I project-ed with a repro No 32 scope) - Good out to 100 yrds so far, and need to try it out to 200 once we are allowed human markers in the butts at Bisley once again. (.45 ACP too slow for the electronic targets...)
That is Sweet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Madzi
Barrel length? Not silencer.
On mine, 30cm to comply with a UK Section 1 Firearms certificate. The original DeLisle had a 21cm barrel which would make it section 5 in the UK (can't be owned by normal mortals...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daan Kemp
I have that problem with my 4(T) at 900 yrds on the electronic targets.....so have stopped shooting with my club at that distance, as has another member with a P17 (although I would have thought 30-06 would have had enough legs at 900 yrds for the electronics) as they want to use the electronic targets being all largely 7.62 target rifle owners :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Madzi
Oh, and I'd love a UK spec Delisle clone.....might one day consider selling my No.5 and replacing it with one of Chris Goodwin's Delisle clones.
Shooting mine I found that heavier bullets driven very fast did the best . Since it is a bolt action rifle it does not have the limits imposed on the 45 acp by handguns . The 300 grain bullet was best at about 1250 fps . If you are going to load to that level use 45 super cases or check the web thickness on the 45 acp cases as some brands are much thicker . 100 yards was the limit for really good accuracy , at 200 it was good for a 12" square plate at best .
The best thing I found out about the builds is that the kids love them. Grandpap can load up the mags as fast as the kids empty them.:super::super:
I built a .45 ACP No.4 a few years ago using another kit (Specialty Arms?). I needed to swap barrels (the hardest part), add a magazine block and ejector, and modify the extractor a bit. It takes 1911 mags, and I load .45 Super for it.
Lots of fun, and pretty accurate!