I bought another piece of junk! - Ishapore .410 Musket

Today after getting picking up the M1 Garand I posted pictures of on my earlier post, I also picked the Ishapore .410 Musket I ordered from Century Arms. I saw these for sale on their site listed as ".Ishapore .410 Musket, *Fair/Poor, Incomplete*".

For $75.00 I just could not pass up buying one even though it was a toss of the dice. I got Junk, yes, but boy the potential and what a fun project! Believe it or not, I'm kind of excited to get started on this one. Does anyone have a Rear Handguard for sale?

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I'll bet the bore is about perfect, most I saw were even if the outside was rough. A quick bead blast and blue will change everything, you can clean the wood work your self with some acetone or citrus strip or whatever to get the axle grease out...

What a hoot! I can't believe that the action, barrel and bolt numbers match. You will have to make your .410 shot shell casings from blown out .303 British brass.

How to Fireform 303 Brass into 410 Shells - YouTube

Reloading Brass .410 Shotshells - YouTube

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

I'll bet the bore is about perfect, most I saw were even if the outside was rough. A quick bead blast and blue will change everything, you can clean the wood work your self with some acetone or citrus strip or whatever to get the axle grease out...

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Thanks Jim. Bore is plugged with grease and crap so won't know until I clear it. There is a crack under the thick black coating on the buttstock as normal so it will need a bath in acetone before I can take care of that. It will be fun to see what she looks like when done.

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Originally Posted by NORTHOF60

What a hoot! I can't believe that the action, barrel and bolt numbers match. You will have to make your .410 shot shell casings from blown out .303 British brass.

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Yeah, I got lucky on the matching parts. Its always like tossing dice, never know what you are going to get. Thank you for the link on fire forming .303 brass to the .410 it will help when I get to that point.

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No being familiar with these rifles, can someone advise me on which Rear Handguard I should be looking for on this? Is it just the standard one with long "ears"?, or did these have something different?

Am I reading the wristguard markings correctly? It seems to show its a 1917 Short Magazine Lee–Enfield Mk II rifle manufactured by the London Small Arms Co. Ltd. Then modified to the .410 by RFI in 1930. Was this common?
I would have thought this was made by RFI of GFI being in India. Of course I know little about Enfileds to begin with let alone this variant.

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Originally Posted by usabaker

Am I reading the wristguard markings correctly?

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I think you are... These should have a normal long eared lower handguard. The wood was the same...the ears were permitted to be cut if one broke and the other didn't matter, apparently they weren't deemed essential.

I kind of envy your project. I always have fun with them. I'm glad I picked up one of these in good condition before they skyrocketed in price.

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Originally Posted by Aragorn243

I kind of envy your project. I always have fun with them. I'm glad I picked up one of these in good condition before they skyrocketed in price.

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Thanks, I went back to buy another and they were sold out. LOL didn't need another anyhow I guess

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they were sold out

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Bummer...but as you say did you NEED it? Maybe not...I have stuff I don't need too.

Looks like one of the Springfield Sporters buy out. Remember walking past stacks of those all the way up to the roof.

You really threw me off with putting this here in the shotgun thread. But I guess that is what it is.

May be I never noticed before or this auction is just wacked but $850.00 Buy Now price, $795.00 Starting Bid for a BRITISH ENFIELD Conversion Rifle to 410 Shotgun for use for Prison Guards ? WHAAATTT?

Boy if he gets that I'm going to kick myself in the booty for not buying more of the $75.00 fixer-uppers

They used to be 25.00 at one time right off the rack. I mean really nice looking rifles too. The ammo was scarce for along time. Now cases of it are back for sale. The same thing for the wire wrapped rifle for lunching grenades they were 25.00. The grenade cups used to be about 15.00. Now look at those prices.

the only place they seem to do is Dunhams in Michigan. bastards.... those crooks are notorious for jacking up price on surplus.

last time they had a surplus rifle, it was how do you say crappy mithcells and they actually added 50% to the mitchells website msrp

Resurrecting and older thread, I wanted to remark on my experience with the Century u fix em 410 muskets. I bought three: one 1915 BSA, one 1909 Enfield and the last was a 1923 Ishapore. Other than the cracked stocks or hand guards, dirt and grease they were gems. All of them had matching numbers and a pristine bore once cleaned. I shot one so far and it was spot on.
Great project guns.

maybe resurrecting the thread will entice usabaker to post some pics and report on his cleanup project?

It looks like mine, but they clean up fine. Mine was not converted to paper shells, it fits original brass. Back at that time lucky gunner had a ton of surplus ammo- cheep. They fire great. Like an old musket at 75 yards. You can see the story of my $150 find. An old SRF post
.410 Enfield SMLE shot gun - Surplus Rifle Forum - www.surplusrifleforum.org

Wish now I'd gotten one when they were at the gettin' place...would like to have tried three round ball in blown open .303 cases.

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maybe resurrecting the thread will entice usabaker to post some pics and report on his cleanup project?

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I haven't got to it just yet. Got side tracked by a few SKS's and a Remington 700 ADL. Was able to buy someone ammo for it though.

Great project