Need help with identifying this rifle!

Hey all, need some help with figuring out a rifle my father just got from my great uncle. Neither are really sure what it is! From what I could find its some type of Mauser maybe? Unfortunately I'm not that knowledgeable on the military style rifles! Heres the info I have from my father (we live 5 hours away so hes been describing it over the phone): Only marks on it are it says "Jules...something...Anvers" on the stock, there's a small lion on the barrel just forward of the bolt, under that are the letters "P.V" under that is the letter "W",and under that is a small downward pointing arrow. On the end of the bolt (facing the shooter) is the number 90, on the side of the rear sight (very small) "7,92". Any help would be very much appreciated! Pictures attached!Attachment 110388Attachment 110387Attachment 110386Attachment 110389Attachment 110390Attachment 110391

Not a Mauser for sure . Looks more like some type of Mannlicher Carcano to me . Know next to nothing about these , however .
Chris

It looks to me like a German Model 1888 carbine

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Originally Posted by emmagee1917

Not a Mauser for sure . Looks more like some type of Mannlicher Carcano to me . Know next to nothing about these , however .
Chris

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It isn't a Mauser per se. It is a Kar88.

Trigger guard and fixed magazine are not Carcano... Some detailed pictures could help. The bolt is not clear enough...

It's a Kar88. Probably German but could have been transferred to Turkey. Looks partially sporterized, the checking on the stock shouldn't be there. The bolt looks like a proper carbine bolt with a flat bottom but can't quite tell for sure.

There are four known types of Carbine, three are original, the fourth is a rework done for Ecuador by Belgium from full length rifles. This is not one of those.

Is the barrel sleeved? Can't quite tell that from the photos either.

:D Like I said , don't know squat .
Chris

The original caliber is 7,92x57 with the smaller .318 dia bullet, if converted to use the later 7,92 cartridge (.323 dia) it should be marked S on the weapon, also it might have a charger guide on the rear and a notched receiver ring.

Photo shows original charger or clip with early SP bullets for huntingAttachment 110395

The proof mark sounds Belgian. These Kar88's are quite rare in good, unmessed-with condition.

looks like these on Gunbroker almost

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...35645897-1.jpg https://www.gunbroker.com/item/875810938

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...21994032-1.jpg https://www.gunbroker.com/item/875882271

It is a K-88 carbine . The stock has been messed with . The bolt is not original , carbines do not have flat bottom bolt knobs , they have spoon handles . Turkey never got any K-88's . K-88's never had the 05 modification , so it will not have a clip guide , notched receiver or magazine modifications . The S ammo bullet was not .323 . A photo of the model type stamping on the left side of the receiver [ Kar-88 or Gew-88 ] will tell if it was an original carbine or made up from parts . A photo of the makers mark on the top of the receiver will also help .

Wow lots of good info! Thanks so much everyone! He did get one of those clips with it! Pic attached. So does this make it a KAR 88 for sure? I'll try and get my father to send me some better pics of the receiver to see if that can help.

You realize there's two different types of ammo in that clip do you? Worth having a second look...

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

You realize there's two different types of ammo in that clip do you? Worth having a second look...

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Good point

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

You realize there's two different types of ammo in that clip do you? Worth having a second look...

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Hahaha yea we do, just the way the clip was given to him.