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03-28-2009, 11:44 PM
mbarrad

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Just found this board recently and am always interested in new Krag Forums. I have a beautiful 1896 Krag that I aquired recently from a trade. I have a brass muzzle cap, 1896 stamped Bayonet w/ period correct type 2 scabbard, Rock Island leather sling, 3 piece cleaning rod set and oiler. This is by far my favorite battle rifle I own. I mainly collect WWII battle rifles, but have found myself looking at earlier period arms. Just picked up an 1873 trapdoor through another trade. Anyway, I am glad to be here. Below are some pics I took of the Krag. Enjoy!

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...IMG_2445-1.jpg

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...IMG_2456-1.jpg

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...IMG_2492-1.jpg

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...IMG_2415-1.jpg
03-29-2009, 10:52 AM
MIKE33

nice krag Poor use of flag
03-29-2009, 11:55 AM
mbarrad

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIKE33

nice krag Poor use of flag

Thanks for the comment regarding the Krag. I disagree with you regarding the use of the flag, but it is your own opinion and I respect that.

Let me provide a little background history of the flag. This was my Grandfather's flag that he proudly flew at his home since I can remember. He was also a Sea Bee in WWII which he proudly flew even before WWII, as my late Grandmother used to say. My Grandfather would tell me stories of his hunting trips in east Texas, and how he could take down anything with his "old trusty" Springfield Krag that his father gave to him. Over the years he ended up selling the Krag, but he always kept the memories of his Krag dear to his heart. He used to proudly show me his long heavy rifle with such glowing enthusiasm. Growing up, I never really appreciated and never really understood why anyone would want to use such an old outdated rifle. Honestly, if he gave me that rifle when I was young, I probably would have sporterized it, and cut down the barrel. When my Grandfather passed in the late 80's, my Grandmother gave me this flag with hopes that I would proudly fly it as my Grandfather did. I did what any young man would do and boxed it up.

Fast forward 20 years, and I started getting heavy into war history and collecting modern to WWII battle rifles. I met a gentleman from Bandera Texas that had a proposition for trading my AK-47 for something interesting. I bit, and drove down to see what he had. He brought out this long heavy old rifle and the hairs on my neck stood up. I knew exactly what is was. I traded the AK-47 for the Krag you see in the picture. I dug out my Grandfather's flag from an old box in my attic and decided to take these pictures as a tribute to my Grandfather. I just wish my Grandmother could have see them.

I have a 14 year old son that I have been telling the story to, but he is young and can't really understand what the use is for such an old rifle. Sound familiar. I am trying to locate some old photos from my Grandfather's hunting expeditions so I can get a look at what kind of Krag he had. I want to eventually build a display in honor of him.

That is why I used this flag. The flag is now safely protected and stored for a time when I can find a better solution for it's preservation.
03-30-2009, 08:58 AM
andiarisaka

Hey Chuck, this fellow's interested in trading that Italian handguard for an American walnut one!
03-30-2009, 10:37 AM
mbarrad

Quote:

Originally Posted by andiarisaka

Hey Chuck, this fellow's interested in trading that Italian handguard for an American walnut one!

Yes Sir! I am looking for an 1898 (I have a 1902 Series 2 rear sight) or later American walnut handguard to match the rifle. If anyone has one, let me know. Thanks!
03-30-2009, 04:23 PM
Parashooter

U.S. Code, Title 36, Chapter 10 -

§ 176. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America . . .
(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. . .
(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything .

(These opinions are those of our elected representatives acting on behalf of the people of the U.S.A.)
03-30-2009, 04:39 PM
sdkrag

I have great respect for the Flag of the US. I am quickly losing any respect for our elected officials. I will leave it at that's a nice rifle.
03-30-2009, 05:09 PM
mbarrad

Ok, I read the Federal regulations and while I have great respect for the flag, my intentions were never to disrespect. I do not read Federal code very often either. I hope there are no hard feelings.:beerchug:
04-01-2009, 09:37 PM
thorin6

Very nice Krag and I take no offense on use of the US flag. I've always liked the M1896 Krags, especially when you add all the accoutrements.
Here's mine. M1887 sling, brass muzzel cover, later bayonet and scabbard, FA headstamped .30-40 rounds in a Hurlburt 50-round belt, knapsack and canteen. Oiler and cleaning rod in butt. M1896 rear sight. Only thing not correct to the original issue is the magazine cut-off. These were changed around SN 107,000-108,000 so that when they were turned down the cut-off was engaged. As far as I know all earlier Krag magazine cut-offs were changed over to the newer version so that they were consistent with new production.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../Krag96f-1.jpg
04-07-2009, 08:03 PM
A square 10

very impressive ktags fellows , i am not offended eather - because i know you ment nothing but the highest respect ,

im in favor of the accoutraments as well , im now down to one 92/96 rifle with a tropical webb sling and four [period correct] bayos each with a diferent scabord type I-IV , and a 99 carbine ,

yours are keepers for sure
04-08-2009, 11:43 PM
mbarrad

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorin6

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../Krag96f-1.jpg

Very nice display!:super: I need to get a mills belt too.
04-08-2009, 11:45 PM
mbarrad

Quote:

Originally Posted by A square 10

very impressive ktags fellows , i am not offended eather - because i know you ment nothing but the highest respect ,

im in favor of the accoutraments as well , im now down to one 92/96 rifle with a tropical webb sling and four [period correct] bayos each with a diferent scabord type I-IV , and a 99 carbine ,

yours are keepers for sure

Thank you very much. Do you have pics of your bayos? Would love to see them.
11-28-2011, 06:00 PM
Alkali

mbarrad - I enjoyed all the above posts, so thanks for starting the thread. Your 1896 Krag is identical in appearance to the one I've owned for 25 years. I was only missing the muzzle cover until just yesterday; stumbled onto one listed on auction and hit the B.I.N. I liked all the photos so well I decided to do a similar study and post it in the next few months. Regards.
11-29-2011, 05:43 PM
daveboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parashooter

§ 176. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America . . .
(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. . .
(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything .

(These opinions are those of our elected representatives acting on behalf of the people of the U.S.A.)

Parashooter

As a regular reader of this forum, I have learned a lot from you and respect your opinions. Also, I certainly appreciate and agree with you concerning the respect due our flag. However, I for one (and maybe the only one) see no disrespect when it is used in a display such as this. Now if the original poster were photographing his rifle with the flag in order to sell it, then I would have a problem. All the items in the photos were used to defend that flag and what it stands for, so I think it is fitting. I have also photographed a couple of WWII milsurps on a 48 star flag that was used to drape the coffin of a friend's father who fought in that war (see my avatar). I figured since he defended our nation with those rifles then he wouldn't mind.

I think one must consider the context when applying the rules you quote. For example, the rule stating that the flag must NEVER touch anything beneath it. Who would object when the flag is draped over a the coffin of a fallen patriot? Also, the flag should never be used as wearing apparel or worn on clothing, but when displayed on the sleeve of our men and women in combat it is of course no problem. I say it again...consider the context.

By the way...very nice Krag!

daveboy
11-30-2011, 08:05 PM
A square 10

para - im going on record standing with you on the need for respect , but respctfully agreeing in this case as ive alrready stated that no disrespect was meant , therre are many out there that do so regularly that deserve our wrath ,

as to photos - yes , some , but not all that good i fear , but i will share -

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ONETS011-1.jpg

these were my 93 spanish mauser-still have it but seling soon , 92/96-still have it , 96-not shown , and 98 , no longer in hand ,

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ONETS033-1.jpg

this is my 99 - still have it ,

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ONETS035-1.jpg

and in my display before i started selling off my US collection ,

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ifles136-1.jpg

sorry they are not better - perhaps i will retake some as i go along