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Saw this M1917 bayonet on ebay now. Item no. 324325059175 Never seen anything like it. Can anyone identify it? Trying to post a pic.
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Saw this M1917 bayonet on ebay now. Item no. 324325059175 Never seen anything like it. Can anyone identify it? Trying to post a pic.
Thanks! https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/G2UAA...T3/s-l1600.jpg
Might be easier if you just post a link to the auction instead of an individual picture...or collect the pics and email them to me and I'll post them for posterity here... It LOOKS like a #5 rifle ring on a 1917 bayonet but the pic is SO bad, the date makes it look like one of the Chinese copies. If we can just see the auction we can see all the pics.
Jim, It's Very Possible that this one here which is also being Sold here on Ebay is just like the same one which is in Question. Item number 111799405732 what do you think ?Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
I left Plenty more meat on the Table.
Well Frank, if that's the type he has then it's one of the repros being currently sold to fill the empty spot. They aren't as good as they look in pics. They don't cost much but that's what they're worth, almost nothing.
I didn't realize they were making reproduction 1917 bayonets. I should have known. Thanks for your replies.
Yes, they make all the hard to find ones...Quote:
Originally Posted by mike181
Jim, I Never really collected any of these Types of Bayonets. I've only collected the U.S. Trench Knifes. I think those are pretty sweet and the M4 Bayonets. I would definitely love to have a smaller one of these for a Display I happened to put together after picking up this M4 Camillus from that CIA Operative Estate Sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Model 1917 Bayonet by Remington
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Nice looking group Frank...Quote:
Originally Posted by imntxs554
That's a nice clean example too.Quote:
Originally Posted by martin08
I have two, both marked 1918. what are the odds of that I wonder.
Thank You Jim...Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Jim, I was looking at the difference of the 2 and I think there were made for Remington. I read that Remington made a Rifle in 1918 and IIRC modeled it after Enfields Model or something like that. I will find that Website with a U.S.1917 Bayonet with those markings on the back side and those were for Remington for the following year when they made there version of the Enfield. I think I Bookmarked that Website or at least I hope I did, but those Markings tell the Story.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
It's for a Model 1917 rifle made by Winchester, Remington and Eddystone which was a subsidiary of Remington. This rifle was based off the P14 which was being made by these factories for the British. When the US entered the war, Springfield could not make enough 1903's to meet the military's needs and it would have taken too long to convert these factories to make Springfields. Much easier to rework the machinery to produce the P14 in 30-06 rather than 303 and the 1917 was born. The bayonet for the two rifles is identical other than British markings on the P14's. These rifles are the subject of much argument, especially by supporters of the Springfield. It was not the "official" rifle of the US military, that was the 1903, yet it was likely more common in Europe in US hands during the war. After WWI, many were sent to England as lend lease, the French also got many. They were removed from US service when the 1903's caught up and then Garand's were adopted.
I actually own one of those M1917 faux bayonets! It will plug onto a M1917 rifle and does look like n M1917 bayonet.
My daughter bought me the spanking new M1917 bayo and scabbard.....:thup:
I can't understand why there would be a need for a reproduction of the M1917 bayonet. There were lots of them produced over the years in the US and Canada. The US Military used it as their shotgun bayonet from WWI until after Vietnam.
Anyway they can make money they will. When they were $70 or less each is wasn't a big deal. They were selling the repros for $60. Now originals are 150 or so so it's a bigger deal. The Vietnam era ones are actually worth more generally as the vets are trying to find them and hang onto them. They have black plastic grips rather than wood.
The originals are expensive and these are really, really cheap. If you're doing re-enacting you may just want a cheapie...Quote:
Originally Posted by oldfoneguy
Gotcha. Mine were under $30 each when I bought them from the Numrich store in the late 70's and early 80's. I never suspected they'd be repopped there were so many made. I picked both of mine out of a barrel that never seemed to empty and I got them 3 years apart!Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Yes, I remember those days. Now they can be $300 and less...depending on things. I was in the Numrich store in '89 and bought an M14 walnut stock out of a cardboard barrel by the door...for $4 USD. Was well worth the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldfoneguy
I tried to get there at least once a month throughout the 80's and 90's then marriage and kids put an end to the fun. That original store was torn down in the 2000's and replaced with a sanitized walk up window in a building on the other side of the parking lot which has also been closed. Bring up their website now and your informed that they no longer take orders over the phone! Customer service has officially died with out as much as a pathetic wimper. How I loved going into that store, getting lost in there for hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Side story here, off topic...I was returning to west coast Canada from east coast and went through the USA because it makes more sense when you've done it a few times. I went too far south on the toll road and was "100 miles from NYC", not where I should have turned. I grabbed the map and looked for an exit, found the road through the Catskills and West Hurley. I knew exactly where I had stumbled into and was road worn from ten hours drive so far, not even close to where I would stop for the night. I saw the sign for Numrich and couldn't resist, had a half hour until they closed. I drove up the road and abandoned my truck in front of the Thompson shop across from the cannon. I walked down and was alone in the front store, all this finery around me. I saw the stocks and grabbed the M14 stock and asked if it was walnut, clerk said "It looks like it"... I looked around and could have loaded the truck because it was empty and my credit card was clean...still had the border at Seattle to deal with though and thought the gunstock was enough. I should have kept the receipt for the stock to show I was actually there...like a photo of visiting a holy shrine. Neat place.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldfoneguy
My trip to SGW/Olympic Arms in WA state on the old Olympic Highway was another trip...just as good.
SARCO in PA sell a repro of the Enfield Pattern 1907 hooked quillion bayonet for under $100US
They make all of them. I saw a young guy I know with a 1905 Springfield bayonet on his rifle after he'd re parkerized it and sanded the ripples off the scales...and then he pointed out a "Repro" to me at an older collector's table. I took a quick look and found a brand new 1905 from 1918 with a late Mk1 scabbard...paid well under expected prices for it. Some guys can't even tell the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
One doesn't have to pay high prices for hooked quillion 1907 bayonets; just be patient and not too fussy.