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I'm looking at an ERA P14 that is stamped with the letters EK WE then what looks like an omega symbol and then maybe an S.
Does anyone know what these mean?
I don't see any other unusual markings on it.
I want to be sure it does not mean it is not shootable.
Maybe someone can answer that but we are limited to the US version as far a ref goes.
All we can say is the Brits had a completely different labeling system and even did not go with specs (as I recall they had issues with quality control not resolved before contracts were ended).
Brits had a major proof stamping system, possible it was done in the UK not the US though if you can see raw metal then a stamp has been done after the finish was put on at the factory.
Not sure if this helps, if you could post a picture?
British Firearms Proof marks - Google Search
I am not going to make this a its a fact statement, take more research, possibly a gun smith.
But, Proof Marks in general are put on when passing inspection and or tests. If they fail they are not proof marked I believe. So a lack of a Proof Mark would be illegal (though it might be ok as it slipped through a crack)
Proof marks on the other hand should indicate it passed.
Attachment 113279Ok, found this. An A seems to indicate US inspection by Brit inspectors. Keep in mind once in the UK it may be proofed again going into the civie world.
I don't suppose you can post photos so that we can eliminate our guess work and act on the same data you have in front of you?
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I don't think they are a proof. Maybe a regimental marking?
Please let me know if you can determine anything.
The stamp should be read EK/S EOS (O = perhaps omega?)
As far as I know it should mean "Training Rifle" (Out of Service, to be used as Training Rifle).
So...here's the pics you guys need and for posterity. It's not all of them but shows what you need.
"C.A.I St. Alb. Vt." mark on the barrel is Century Arms import mark. I am pretty sure they imported some rifles both from the UK and from Greece. Looks to me like the pre 86 import mark best I can tell.
https://www.milsurps.com/attachment....2&d=1607956105
Does Training Rifle indicate it should not be shot?
It's not like DP it?
Yes, but I might be wrong.
I found this old thread:
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=18470
When you have the rifle, try to disassemble it.
I always completely disassemble, clean and inspect any milsurplus rifles I buy before reassembling and shooting. So I'll be on the lookout for any issues.
I did not see a reference to these markings in the link you sent. And they were not discussing P14's. Did I miss something?
I'm sorry, I missed the picture and second page of the link.
It sounds like the marks may indicate Greek service.
I found reference on another site to Greek service and that it might translate as "Out of service"
Enfield-Rifles.com
I'm surprised there are not more mentions of it online. It can't be that unusual, can it?
Maybe this link is a clue?
Centre Union - Wikipedia
Of course, the trouble with acronyms is that they tend to be ambiguous!
The markings under the barrel for sure are the import.
What the rest is??????
Lot of P-14s were passed to Greece in 1946/47 for their civil war.