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Hi all, I have a Lee Enfield Carbine 1* and I'm trying to decipher some of the markings. The disc in the butt says '6.00, 7DG,06' so I'm guessing that means it was issued in July 1900 to the 7th dragoon guards, rack number 6. The receiver is marked 1900 so that makes sense to me. The toe of the butt plate and bolt knob are both marked 'EFD, 22, E' and other than EFD being short for Enfield I have no idea what this might denote. Any advice on any of the above is appreciated. Cheers, Tom
We love pictures. More pictures of any marks on the action and barrel will allow the experts to give much more 'expert' advice. Full length pictures will also help.
The wood looks like a serious oiling would do it good.
Dates of issue on on the top of the disc and rack numbers at the bottom.
Issued June 1900
7th Dragoon Guards
Rack/inventory number 06
Very nice.
22 E
Inspector number 22 at Enfield
I can add more pictures but the rifle this was on was sporterised, probably the fourth LEC that had been bubba'd that I've bought just for one or two good parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daan Kemp
And what oil would you recommend for the butt?
Cheers, Tom
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I'm also scratching my head because this butt has a sling mount on the bottom but not the left side of the stock. I would have thought all British cavalry and mounted infantry troops would have carried the British style of cavalry carbine with the rear sling mount being recessed into the left side of the butt. Whereas the RIC carbines had it on the right side and the NZ carbines only had a stud at the bottom of the stock. Is it possible this was an NZ carbine butt that has had the disc replaced with this DG one? After all the 7th DG and NZ mounted rifles were both in South Africa together during the second Boer War.
RLO - raw linseed oil for all wood furniture on the 303's I normally do a 80/20 mix of RLO with Mineral Turpentine just thins it a smidge to get it soaking into the pores a bit quicker others may say just go with straight RLO so apply a coat leave 24hrs then another same repeat until the stock wont absorb any more wipe down between coats.
Please add the pictures.
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Originally Posted by Daan Kemp
The buttstock I mentioned was on a very badly rusted 1900 LEC 1* action, which I mainly bought for said buttstock. I've acquired about 4 sporterised carbines now in order to put together a mostly original NZ Carbine (LEC/88). As shown in the photos; the NZ carbine is an NZ stamped 1903 LEC 1*, action serial number 1618, the bolt was 1530 was has been crossed out and numbered 1618 to match the receiver (I'm guessing an arsenal job). The barrel on the receiver when I bought it was off an SMLE, but my next sporter carbine had an original barrel but the receiver had had the numbers and markings ground off. So, that barrel (serial 1406) is now on the first receiver. The stock shown in the photos has sadly been cut down and the nosecap had the bayonet boss ground off. I have welded an MLE bayonet lug back on (ruining said MLE nosecap in the process, heresy, I know). I also have a complete reproduction stock on order, however I will probably cut off the appropriate length of the repro stock and splice it onto the too-short original one. The top wood shown is also repro. The thing with the NZ carbine (LEC/88) is that only 1500 complete rifles were made, with another 250 or so barrelled actions being sent over here afterwards, therefore there weren't even enough stocks to go around the number of barrelled actions back then, 120 years ago. So now, naturally, evener fewer stocks survive compared to the number of barrels/receivers.
Now it looks like this latest buttstock is actually from a British cavalry carbine, not an NZ mounted rifles one, but given how scarce both types are I will stick it on the carbine for the time being, the butt on the one in the photo is an MLE stock that someone has mocked up to look like an LEC by shortening the butt plate tang and splicing in a wood piece to make up the gap.
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Oh, and can I register my disgust at the fact that scrolling over the 'NZ' in my above post comes up with a blurb saying "Click the link to view the Australia section"
:lol::lol::lol:https://www.milsurps.com/images/smilies/lol.gif
Imagine being South Korean and someone calling you North Korean, or being Scottish and being called English, or being Canadian and being accusing of being a yank. =D