Strange sling swivel on Midway M1 carbine

I was one of those that bought a midway carbine, and mine came with a sling swivel that doesn't look like any others I've seen. This is from a G-VG Standard Products one. Is it USGI, or did some Italian armorer whip this up as a replacement:

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../iliHZqi-1.jpg

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../x45x91m-1.jpg

Otherwise, its....ok. Winchester highwood stock and handguards (crack on the underside of the handguard). Underwood barrel which I think is original, and push button safety.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../LwUGgz9-1.jpg

Totally new to carbines, so any help with ID'ing this part is greatly appreciated!

It's just bent, I could fix that in a few minutes work.

As stated, it's just bent.

It doesn't look bent in person though, the angles on the corners are pretty clear. The erm, part the screw goes through is also much shorter than a normal one. Someone elsewhere was joking the original was lost and I got an Italian bubba special.

I vote for bent. How tight is the screw? Mine came with the band screw barely threaded in, so the gap showed like your pic. Your first pic looks like it's twisted out a bit at the point, unless that is just the lighting. Ignore the jokers. They are just jealous they didn't get one.

I believe it is a spaghetti sling swivel......or else it is just bent...but it does look like the rounded center part is shorter than normal.

Bent...

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Originally Posted by ssgross

I vote for bent. How tight is the screw? Mine came with the band screw barely threaded in, so the gap showed like your pic. Your first pic looks like it's twisted out a bit at the point, unless that is just the lighting. Ignore the jokers. They are just jealous they didn't get one.

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I myself already have four, so $1,800 or more to buy another just didn't seem reasonable.

Looks bent and ground short. I've got an early band that's been ground short so some bubba could use a later band screw on an early band. The screw doesn't fit unless they make the cylinder part shorter. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by eb in oregon

I myself already have four, so $1,800 or more to buy another just didn't seem reasonable.

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Depends on what it is. Of course I'd pay that for something worth more than 1800.

Appreciate all the feedback, guess it is likely bent and maybe ground a bit short. I don't think the screw is too loose - the handguard and barrel seem to be holding in place well and I don't want to tighten it more and risk cracking the wood. I'll probably suck it up and buy a replacement with the correct length.

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Originally Posted by tenOC

Looks bent and ground short. I've got an early band that's been ground short so some bubba could use a later band screw on an early band. The screw doesn't fit unless they make the cylinder part shorter. :rolleyes:

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Depends on what it is. Of course I'd pay that for something worth more than 1800.

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And you have that right. I've already gone the "I want one anyway" route and finally decided I don't need to be able to supply a whole platoon of infantry and sold a bunch, focusing on those I want to keep and shoot.

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Originally Posted by Harlock

I was one of those that bought a midway carbine, and mine came with a sling swivel that doesn't look like any others I've seen.

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Fellow member Floyd the cat noted seeing these bent swivels on the Italian returns.
I've also seen a number of them posted by new owners on Redditt sub forums.

Wondering what type sling hook or snap that may have been used. All the Swivels we've seen are bent in this same manner.

Hey charlie, do you think fellow member Ovidio would be able to find out some info?

Odd, I hadn't seen any one reddit, but I'd heard there were a few weird pieces popping on some other Italian returns (think I've seen talk of the buttplates on the cmp forums). If anyone ended up trying to do more detailed research on them, feel free to contact me for specific measurements or different pics. I'm probably going to swap it for a known usgi one and put it in storage for now.

Attachment 118537One here from The Carbine Collectors Club Forum that appears to be bent in the same direction.
You'll have to zoom the pic up to see the detail.
Maybe best to open picture in a new tab and mag up to 500%

Post link: New here and to M1 Carbines - The Carbine Collector's Club - Page 1

BTW, I put a link over there to your bent swivel.