On March 29th, 1911, the Browning-designed, Colt-produced .45 Automatic pistol, was selected as the official sidearm of the Armed Forces of U.S.A., and named Model of 1911.
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On March 29th, 1911, the Browning-designed, Colt-produced .45 Automatic pistol, was selected as the official sidearm of the Armed Forces of U.S.A., and named Model of 1911.
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I thought for a second you were going to tell us that was the brute you carried overseas, it's sure been through it's share.
Jim, I got it through DCM sales in 1961 with the connivance of an uncle. Later, after I enlisted, I did take it everywhere the Army would allow. The DD Form 1348-1 proving "lawful transfer from the government of the U.S. of 1 each pistol" disappointed a few MPs.
I shot expert with the Model 1911A1 in the army, still have the metal
I don't know why but the 1911 is the most comfortable pistol I've ever shot.
Bob
When you think of a pistol; it is always the 1911 .45 Colt that springs to mind.
Such a great piece of engineering. There are few things from over a century ago that remain competitive in today's market. That is a real testament to the design!
When looking for a pistol for service pistol competitions; the 1911 was the only one on the list! ( although I went for a US made STI version).
When friends at the club talk about Glock's etc I have no clue; if it's plastic; I'm not interested.
The 1911 is still the gun. I shot best with my 1911, unfortunately osteo arthritis in the hands stopped that. Still the best feeling and fitting gun to handle and shoot.
Shot some matches with the 45ACP 1911 felt good pointed well just chasing the brass was the down side for me I preferred my 2 S & W K frame 357 Mags as you can dump and speed load hulls pretty quickly I've just always liked wheel guns. My go to fun gun was my Ruger Super Redhawk in 44 Mag I was having a go at plates with factory 240 grainers the first round took the plate clean off the rack hmmm put the gun away and get the repairs done.
Either way if you were a baddie looking down that nearly half inch hole on a 45 or nearly as big 44 Mag it would unsettle ones nerves a bit I'd say Elmer Keith always said capacity is the key big is better when talking on the 45 LC and weapons like the 1911 and 44 Mag.
I've fired the bigger handguns the 50 AE, 500 S&W, 460, 454 Casull hell of a bang and a real hand full, my measured grip strength by a G.P is 63Kg R & 62 Kg L believe me when I say you have to hang on to those bad boys, the auto more so due to the reciprocation of the action functioning.
I learned on and carried an M9, and didn't hold or shoot a 1911 until after my seperation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Womack
Looking back, I have to say that for everything except magazine capacity (a non-issue now for my applications) and whatever the DoD's ballistics reasons were (no I don't want to open up that can of worms for debate), I much prefer to shoot and carry a 1911. Why? Well,
- I can't stand striker-fired weapons (see last bullet)
- I can't stand polymer made main components
- I despise those finger safeties built in to the trigger.
- When I hold a weapon in my hand...I want to know and feel that it is there.
- I want the weight of metal to remind me of the responsibility I have with the power of life and death is in my hands.
- I want to instinctively know what condition the weapon is in by a glance or instinctive feel. This should be natural, with no room for misinterpretation or misunderstanding.
Happy (belated) 1911 day friends!
First competition in over 2 years coming up this weekend with the 1911.
Should be fun even without enough practice.
Let us know the results 30Three you may be surprised at retained memory once you un-holster it and let drive.
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Exactly why I like wheel guns yes a proud primer can stop them but that's less of a chance than a stove pipe on a 1911 my Ruger with a full cylinder of 240 grainers and 6 1/2" brl had a nice weight to it but the recoil was still lively.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgross
There is something to be said for revolvers; they have their uses. But. Armed forces all over the world don't use revolvers as a sidearm. None. Should tell you something.
it's been the same argument for over a century now...putting more bullets downrange in the same space of time is a key to victory. There have been studies on this. It's a core reason for switching to the m9, m16 etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daan Kemp
But...I'll keep my S&W model 60 tucked in my shorts pocket on a hot summer day over any of the other options.
A question for the military guy's!
Was the idea of "double tap" shooting used prior to introduction of the 9mm pistol or earlier with the older .45ACP pistols?
Has always been used with self loading rifles to ensure a hit on target or perhaps the probability of two close together. We taught it more with instinctive shooting where sights were overlooked and both eyes kept open to observe strike. Then you set up a rhythm of double shots to increase hit probability. Works very well with sub guns like Thompson, Sten, Sterling and such as it's mainly CQB.... I was doing it in Australia with an early M16 in CQB and a CSM didn't like it, we were supposed to aim. I was hitting all the targets though, he didn't mention that part...Quote:
Originally Posted by 30Three
Double tap isn't military. Originated with IPSC and self defence with handguns. Equates to "stopping power", where the relative stopping power of calibres were compared, with the conclusion that you should fire two shots if you want to stop an assailant. One shot is good by two are much better, without wasting ammo.
Spilled over from the sport I presume.
In contrast to military, where rifles, space and distance from the enemy are the norm. Stopping an assailant in your home isn't a military issue. You just use more machine guns and mortars and artillery, etc.
someone once said to me "first shot to stop what they are doing, second one to make sure they can't get up and do it again."Quote:
Originally Posted by Daan Kemp
Sounds like something Jeff Cooper would have said.
Yep, the military followed a sport...for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daan Kemp
Now you know that isn't always true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daan Kemp
For the past 40+ years, California law enforcement has utilized and trained the strategy of "two to the body, one to the head." This was in response to criminals being able to obtain or create their own body armor.
Military always taught one-handed classic Olympic style handgun shooting. You will see it changing from the eighties to two handed IPSC style.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Yes, but just about always. The norm in military firefights isn't protecting your family from baddies in your house with a rifle at short range. Close combat in urban areas usually with several other similarly equipped soldiers with you. With grenades too.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
No, they always taught YOU...Quote:
Originally Posted by Daan Kemp
Ok, but not a blanket statement...Quote:
Originally Posted by Daan Kemp
Sgt Alvin York's Colt Model 1911 was turned by Sgt York in France before returning to America, I believe the serial number is Colt 244408.
To my knowledge, it has never been located ?