Criterion barrels

I talked to a local gunsmith, who says he can put a new barrel on a 1917. He was aware of the potential receiver crack problem, too. Numrich has Criterion barrels for a reasonable price. Anyone had any experience with these??
Thanks, to all.

they dont come cut for the extractor, or the front sight key.
i say , be patiant and find a JA. RIA or other GI barrel.
i have yet to see a cracked receiver ring on a 1917, and iv rebarreled a lot of them.
i have seen a cracked reciever under the rear sight, but thats the only one.
17,s are pretty soft, and bend easy.

Appreciate the response. I'll check around for a good original barrel. Thanks

I took a look on the Gun Parts Co site. I did not see any Criterion barrels. They are good barrels, for sure. The barrels I saw are not worth the money. Once in a while a JA 2 groove barrel turns up. They are quite nice. Start looking, good luck.

...and get out your wallet! GB new ones in $300 range.

if you add this to the repro barrels.
to mill the extractor cut 65.00, to cut the sight key, 75.00, parkerize and or blue to match, 45.00, install, 75.00 finish ream and test fire 25.00. plus return shipping, 30.00 .
thats 315.00 plus the cost of the barrel.
and those are my rates, that are below the standard hour rate of 85.00 to 95.00 and hour.
i charge 45.00 an hour, for standard work, 75.00 an hour on a lathe or mill.
most shops are 100.00 and hour machine shop time.
if you found a JA, RIA, or other {real} 17 barrel, for 300.00 or less. it would be cheaper, and youd have a real GI barrel, and when it comes time to sell the rifle, that does make a defferance.

Keep an eye out for sporters. Some often have uncut barrels.
john

Criterion has good barrels for sure and you can get them ready to install (with sight and extractor cutout) now that they have the timing thing down but you wont get a Criterion from Gunparts, you'll get a GPC barrel - okay I guess but nothing to write home about and still needs a lot of work to be GTG.

Dan

i installed a GP barrel for a customer a year ago, it did have some issues, but nothing that was too bad, had to fit the front sight after the key was cut, the barrel was a bit too large, not much , just enough to make it a bear.
seemed a little soft, the twist is right hand as well, shot ok, from a report back from the customer.
but by the time all the work was done, and it was back in his hands, he could have picked up a real GI 17 barrel, for less money, and likely it would have shot better.
also,
DONT BE TEMPTED TO BUY A REPLACEMENT GI BARREL FROM GP OR SARCO.
they are barrels that were relief cut, and have a washer added to bring up the gap.{eyeroll} i wont touch them, they are junk, and will make great tomato stakes.

2flasargent i have a m17 Eddystone barrel as a spare if you are interested? Is in good shootable condition would have about 70 percent rifling left no pitting etc, give me a yell if interested regards Al.

Hi Al. You say your M17 barrel is in good shootable condition? I am interested as mine needs replacing and I don't see getting a new one made for some time yet. I can broker through my local gunsmith in Queensland if you like and pay by PayPal or whatever means suits you. Let me know how much you are asking? email: jlgrn@bigpond.com.

shipping barrels to Austrailia from the US without and export importer is a Felony.

I believe the seller is located in Lexton, Victoria, Australia. Therefore, the barrel would only need to be shipped locally here in Australia. with no import permit required. However, a broker is required in Australia. A nominated licenced gunsmith can act as one of these.

the person shipping the barrel on this end has to be a exporter, importer of firearms for it to legally happen..
the person shipping the package takes the heat...not the person receiving the package.
if you look up customs laws and regulations shiipping from the USA...you can see that for yourself...
however...
shipping from there to the US,..is fine.. no export, importer is needed... laws...sometimes they just dont make since.

Perhaps I need to clarify as you seem to be caught up in United States import and export laws which do not apply in this case. I take it that you are a US resident? For an Australian licenced firearm owner to import a class A or B rifle barrel from the United States, they would need to obtain a Form B709A authorisation. Written permission must also be obtained from the Australian Attorney General's Department if one is intending to import a barrel and repair a rifle. But Please Note; I am not intending to import a barrel from the US!

In this case, both myself and the prospective seller are Australian residents as I have pointed out previously. We are not governed by US import and export laws. We are governed by Australian Firearms Legislation. In Australia, when an owner of a firearm or part thereof wishes to sell it on to someone, they must "broker" the deal through a licenced firearms dealer, gunshop or gunsmith. A "Permit To Aquire" application outlining make, model, serial number etc of the part or weapon then needs to be submitted and approved to and by the Police. Once this has been completed, the buyer picks up his purchase at the dealer who then in turn pays the seller. The puchase is complete.

i see were this was mixed up....the OP started this in March of 2009.. and lives in Utah USA... so thread over a year old was drug up....
wow....
im sure your right about how to transfer weapons in Aus. however... for you to drag up a post over a year old to try and find a good barrel, shows me that barrels are next to impossible to find in Aus...
and i stand by what i said... to ship a barrel to Aus, from the USA without a export, import permit....is illegal.
since this post was started back in 09, i have rebarreld some 50 or so 1917,s with Criterian made barrels....awesome barrels, after they got the small issues delt with. with help from me...
they install easy, and shoot outstanding.

Yes the guy advertising his barrel did so back in May 2009. However, there had been no indication that he had sold the part and it could very well still have be lying around in his gun safe for all I know. Not knowing how much he wanted for the barrel prompted me to enquire. Afterall, if you can get a good barrel for say $200, why pay $600 for a new barrel if you're not into Match shooting?
As far as getting a new barrel is concerned, there is no shortage here in Australia. In fact, I have given up on contacting the member with regard to his barrel and have since ordered a brand new barrel for my Eddystone M1917 30-06 to be made here in Brisbane. We have some fine barrel makers here, such as Total Solutions and the costs are very reasonable.
Of course you are right with regard to shipping a barrel from the US to Australia without the necessary export import papers. Barrels themselves are cheaper to purchase as a stock item in the US. However, it becomes very expensive for the Australian buyer importing a single order over the amount US$100. The US Government then likes to take it's large bite of the export pie and the price of the item skyrockets accordingly. So, in effect, orders are not a cheaper option for an Australian wanting to buy a single barrel for instance. In fact, I believe they work out more expensive than Australian barrels which are offered in chrome moly or stainless steel, fully machined.
I've heard of a few barrel makers in the USA Criterion being one of them. As I've mentioned, we have many makers here in Australia. Wouldn't it be good if you could try one of our home grown? :) BTW, did you know that a huge number of SMLE's, M1917 & P14 parts, Bren guns, Owen guns etc. were made at the Lithgow N.S.W. Armory here?

Ive only used a Criterion on a Garand. Thought they were excellent quality. Cant speak for any of the other types.

you can contact criterion with any questions on barrells they are very helpful.if you want they can prob crome line it for you.they make match grade chrome lined barrels

CMP has the 1917 Criterion barrels with extractor and front sight key cuts, parkerized, for $189
https://estore.odcmp.com/store/catal...4=&note5=&max=

old old thread...iv installed over 100 of these barrels since they got all the bugs worked out, only had one with an issue....they made it right...lots of happy shooters....