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come to an end! This new site is very slow and inconvenient compared to the old one. I used to check into the old site 1-2 times a day, I only check out G.T., Mauser, Krag, small bore and while sometimes activety on these (not G.T.) was quite slow, its now ridiculous. I go in 1-2 times a week and nothing new is there. While the new Jap forum is nice, nothing happening there either! Oh well, like I said------
Sorry, the new site is MUCH better for me. Sorry you feel that way. Look up the thread on how to speed things up in Firefox by disabling graphics, that may help.
Mike Doerner
Hi Dave ... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
I assume you're a dial-up member. If so, yes, unfortunately this modern software is graphics intensive and not really designed or built well for use with 56kb dial-up users in mind... :( On the other hand, if you're using high speed bandwidth access such as cable or DSL, then it should be fine, unless there's something else going on within your browser, computer or ISP connection.
Until higher bandwidth cable, or wireless type services become more widely available, it will continue to be a problem as the use of the Internet and even more video and graphics intensive applications appear.
I know that some members out in the boondocks subscribe to satellite based Internet service, which is good for data coming down to the user's computer, but not up, which on-line multiplayer gamers need. It is pretty good for Internet browsing for sites like this, but it can be pricey.
Another option I've seen people with slow data links like dial-up use is RSS Feeds. Milsurps.Com forums (including Jouster) fully supports RSS Feeds.
Go to CSP (Culver's Shooting Page) RSS Feeds (click here). Read about RSS and then go down the page to the "Jouster.Com" forum display and select the forums you want "pushed" out to you. For example, I get the RSS feeds for all of the new posts sent to my Apple iPhone and can sit and read them in airports, with nothing more than a 3G telephone wireless connection. Works pretty darn good and is of course excellent if you have a Wi-Fi connection, or you're sitting at home in front of a real computer.
For people with regular high speed connections, using RSS is a GREAT way to stay current without having to come here constantly. Rather than visiting a series of Web pages every day, many Web users are installing RSS newsreaders and configuring them to pull RSS feeds to them. It's like having news delivered to your desktop! So, when you visit any site, not just this one, look for the small https://www.milsurps.com/images/cinv...isting/rss.gif button to see if that site supports RSS readers. They even integrate right into your Yahoo or Google pages. Our https://www.milsurps.com/images/cinv...isting/rss.gif button is right at the VERY bottom of the screen and you can click on it anytime to configure this site for your own RSS needs.
Even with RSS feeds, you would still have the dial-up slowness if you choose to go and read an ENTIRE post, but at least this way you get to select the posts you want to read without having to login and go through the whole site.
Finally, often any slowness with this site isn't the site itself. It can be the intermediate computing devices such as routers between the member and us. One way to quickly test as to how fast the Jouster Forums Home Page loads if accessed from someplace else, wold be to click on this link:
Pingdom Tools (click here)
With average loading, our server generally returns about 10 - 12 seconds for the very first time it's accessed, which that test site does all the time. It's always a first time access from their location. You'll find that result at the bottom of their report.
Why is that important? In simple terms, when you access the Jouster Forums direct (not using that test site!) for the first time yourself with a reasonably fast bandwidth connection, you should see it takes about 10 - 12 seconds to display the whole page. However, if you have your Internet browser's "cache" turned ON (you should!), then the next time you click on the same link it will be substantially faster, because the images and other larger files are accessed from your local computer rather than downloads from across the Internet again. On our site, second cached load times for the same page generally run from 1/2 second to 1 1/2 seconds! Check your browser. If you have "cache" turned OFF, you are operating on ALL web sites (not just here) at speeds much slower than you need to be.
Hope this helps everyone here better understand the relationship between Internet speed and web sites, plus some options people can try to mitigate slow connections or sites.
Regards,
Badger
And you are largely the author of your own misery! You have a dial-up connection...that format is dying FAST, so you've got bigger problems than accessing this site! Get a real internet connection, and you'll find this site is VERY fast as well as being secure...something the old Jouster was not!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
x2 this site is far more easy to get to than jouster. least now I can go on any time without hangup or what ever, unlike the old place where best times to go on was early afternoon and very late at night.
Dave,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
As already noted, this site is much, much faster. Without a browser cache and on an initial access, it loads completely for me in just under 5 seconds, we don't have to look at unattended spam for days at a time, you can use the topics you wish in an orderly fashion, and don't have to wade though the p***ing contests. If that doesn't appeal to you, you're on the wrong site. It's like driving a BMW when you have been used to driving a Model A Ford.
be carefull of which you speak :rolleyes: I'd take the Model A Ford OVER the BMW any day for "reliability".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramboueille
ask me why I say this.. :move eek:
I'm not sure Dave is refering to connection speed entirely. "There's nothing going on over there" sounds like "slow" as in boring.
I like it here. It's different but nice once you get used to it. It is hard for old guys to change but change we must.
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Originally Posted by dryheat
Actually....I think he was complaining about both! (Hey, if you're gonna b!tch, b!tch about everything!) While I think blaming a little posting doldrum on the new site is like blaming a thermometer for the temperature in a room....he's certainly entitled to express his opinion. Besides....it's that time of year, in spite of the fact that it friggin' SNOWED here in Camp Perry Country yesterday....folks are out shooting, not sitting on the computer talking about it! The annual "CSP Spring Slowdown" has begun! There are fish to catch, targets to shoot, flowers to plant, gardens to Rototill, and grass to cut!
However, the speed of the site itself is HIS problem, not the sites...which is NOT a matter of opinion, but simple fact.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion....not their own facts!" D.P. Moynihan
I also have a dial up connection when in N.J., and I had no trouble with the old site. I do not see why this site would be any different, but then I havnt had to use dialup during the transition either. I do think Daves main complaint is the lack of activity on the Forums that he mainly uses, which may be due too the fact that not everyone who posts on them has made the switch. The Forums that I visit seem to be doing ok, and although change does come slow to some of us, I do appreciate the fact that we at least have a place to stay in touch and continue with the great Forums that we enjoy. I think that even the "slow" ones that Dave describes will pick up as time goes on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
Ken,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken C.
Fifty percent of the other forum's posts were trash, spam and flame wars by unregistered members. When you have a forum that is unattended for weeks at a time, that is what you get. That doesn't happen here so you now get legitimate posts by registered members which attributes to less traffic. It's that simple.
John... Many of us live in areas where dial-up is the only service available. I contacted my cable TV company to see about getting cable for TV and internet, and was told that it would cost $11,500 to run cable to my house. I am fortunate that I have a clear view if the southern sky and was able to get satellite service. My neighbor is not so lucky. Tall trees on his neighbor's property obscures the line-of-sight from his house to the satellite, so he is stuck with dial-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Kepler
Yes, I am in the country so my only choice is satillite, which I can not afford, so I am on dial-up. Not the sites fault, I know. But the old site was quite fast, compared. Mostly tho, it seems many of the old group has failed to come over here. Discuusssions are nill, and its not just the season. And I am not "bit:ching", but if that is the way it is taken, I will shut up. Please excuse.
It's cool Dave! I kinda know what you mean. I miss stuff like Major Culver's " Sea Stories" or the " How To Posts" from armorers like Gus Fisher and Roland Beaver. At least we have guys like "Mark in Rochester" posting some very interesting "Garands in Combat" pics. It would be great if some of our senior Vets would give us their views on the Garands during use in the service or share their experiences. After awhile the threads all start to sound the same. "What's Headspace?", What's my Garand worth?", " What's the Angle of the Dangle of my Bayonet supposed to be?"
Another thing that I finally noticed is, where the old forum messages and responses all moved "downstream" here the headers stay and the messages accululate under them so it seems like nothing new is being posted.
Although,I think it's picking up some, at first not much was posted. If it wasn't for Louis and Mark it would have been real desolate here. As my little league coach used to say, "lets hear some chatter oout there".
I assume everyone has looked at the bottom left corner of the web site display under "Display Options" when viewing any forum?Quote:
Originally Posted by dryheat
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You can set up "Sort Order" of any forum, including several options of what direction to view threads etc.... have a look ... ;)
Regards,
Badger
One of my favorite things about the new site is to go to the unread posts when you log in on the upper right hand corner. You can see all the new posts from all the forums in one handy place, no need to check each one. I miss the familiarity of the old site but I love the performance here.Quote:
Originally Posted by dryheat
If you use the Firefox Web Browser, you can disable all images by going to TOOLS -> OPTIONS (or under linux EDIT -> PREFERENCES) then click on CONTENT and uncheck the box next to LOAD IMAGES AUTOMATICALLY. If you download the FLASHBLOCK program under TOOLS -> ADD-ONS then all the unwanted animations disappear as well. FWIW.
Mike Doerner
I loved the old site too but this site and it's options are wonderful. I am not computer smart, and I only work in a box so to speak. But even I am able to tailor the site to the way I like to see it.
Also, From what I read, Badger, the administrator, is a gentleman. He does not respond to the folks who are complaining about the site, even though they are receiving a free service, in a defensive or anger way. Instead, he answers and trys to instruct them or make them aware of ways to over come some of their complaints
I'm afraid I wouldn't be so nice and patient and would just tell them that if they don't like the site to go some where else. But Badger takes the time to respond and try to address the issues in a positive way, My hats off to him. Ray
I think it was mighty decent of Badger and the management of Milsurps to give CSP a new home when the old CSP Unix equipment crashed.
To help users who want a better idea of how fast their Internet speed is, we've added a new item called Speed Test (click here) to our menu bar.
To see where it is if you can't find it ....
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Remember.... this doesn't tell you how fast your Internet connection is to our web site directly, but rather how fast your computer is connecting from it to the Internet. Your ISP may provide different levels of performance base upon what you pay for.
Of course, the higher your connect speed to the Internet, it follows you should see better performance connecting here.
Hope this helps ... :)
Regards,
Badger
I'm one of those cheap SOBs with a dial up! Course if I wasn't on a disibility income and had $80K a year to spend I would probably have one of the fancy accesses.
For ME this site is noticeably slower than almost All of the other web sites I visit! No idea why that is, But it is a fact!
Sarge