No comment on this, not sure if its real or photoshopped ?
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No comment on this, not sure if its real or photoshopped ?
It could work for extraction in emergency. Wouldn't be comfortable or safe.
My thoughts as well it would seem feasible in a tight spot just to get back to friendly turf.
Looks preferable to the McGuire rig devised by Project Delta’s Sergeant Major Charles T. McGuire during the Vietnam War. A McGuire rig was simply a 15’ x 3” nylon strap fashioned into a loop large enough for a man to sit in and with a smaller wrist loop sewn into the strap to hopefully prevent the wounded or unconscious from falling out. There are more than a few stories of SOG A Team members hanging on for dear life as the helicopter, in a rush to avoid enemy fire flew away before the Troopers hanging below cleared the tops of the trees.
Or this:
I recently watched a short documentary on French forces in Africa. One combat (2 x man) helicopter and one reconnaissance (3x man) helicopter.
The 3 man helicopter was shot down; two quite badly injured and the third ok. The combat crew landed and the uninjured crewman carried the colleagues to the helicopter and they held onto the undercarriage to fly out. This was because they could see the Islamist rebels closing in on the site of the crash.
They flew for I believe around 5 minutes to safety and the transfered to another helicopter for final extraction.
Some very brave men!
I will try and find the link and post it.
French Army - YouTube
I believe that it is a recognised procedure for emergencies. I would imagine that one would require a change of underwear afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
Or two.Quote:
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After watching the vid my thoughts went to Michael Durant and those two brave snipers who gave everything to try and save him I think they both received the MOH posthumously.
The aftermath footage was horrible to see, pity they did not have A10's and let the GAU's sort it out.
I did spie-rigging a few times for training. Weird feeling dangling around. Better have a good bottom guy that knows what he's doing. If he doesn't balance just right the whole string and all on it go spinning...top man vomits, gravity, etc.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...valQAw2F-1.jpg
Do you put the heaviest guy on the bottom to act like a sinker to keep the line tight ! ;)
Good point but I think with that firepower God would have to handle the sorting.Quote:
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Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart: The real heroes of the Battle of Mogadishu
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no. his weight doesn't matter. You notice how the bottom guy is the only one with his arms and legs spread eagled? He has to constantly adjust/refine that position keep the rope from spinning. I was never a bottom guy. They are specially trained just for it. The rest on the rope are just along for the ride.Quote:
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I flew AH-1s and OH-58Ds (Kiowa Warriors) while in the Army. While I never saw the ammo bay doors used as a rescue seat, I know of several times in Vietnam that this technique was used. I was in the first unit in the Army to have the armed KWs.
They were modified from slick side 58-Ds for the overwater, armed recon mission in support of the Navy in the Persian Guld in the late 80s and early 90's. Because we were operating off ships at night (low-level NVGs) and not close to Search and Rescue capabilities, our aircraft were modified with 15 foot caving ladders. They were rolled up in a box mounted under both the pilot and copilot's seats to the underside of the fuselage. The ladders could be deployed by pulling a T-handle on the deck between the seats.
To be qualified for the overwater mission, we had to be SeaSAR qualified, we had to practice both picking up someone and being picked up from out of the water, daytime and under NVGs
There were 2 actual rescues using this method while doing the Persian Gulf mission. Both times required the pilot to jettison the rocket pods to have enough power to do the pick-up. One of the pilots was awarded the (IIRC) the 1991 Helicopter Associations Life Saving award.
As part of our land Cavalry missions, we practiced the stand on the skid and hook into a weapon hard point or actually sit on the Universal Weapons Pylon. My understanding is this was used several times in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Not long after I retired in 98, there was an incident where an Apache pilot ferried SF personnel across a river while in pursuit of bad guys. I remember the outrage in the aviation community at the time however, I applaud the ingenuity in getting the mission accomplished.
I have a picture of a Tea-bagging somewhere, I'll dig it up and post it.
Sometimes the difference between a loss or win is the decision made on the spot.
I remember reading a comment in my military quotations book and it went like this ~ a commander was in contact with his superior whilst engaged by a larger enemy force.
"We are now completely surrounded, that simplifies things, we can shoot in all directions."
The outcome of that engagement was not told.
My first job out of high school in 1972 was working with a timber cruiser (surveyor) in the mountains above Nelson, B.C. Our 4 man team commuted to work everyday in an Okanagan Helicopters Bell 206A Jet Ranger from which the OH-58 was derived. Many times the ground we had to get to was so steep the chopper couldn't land so we had to learn to stand on the skids and simultaneously leap to the ground so as to not upset the balance of the helicopter. We always had to get to a flat area at the end of the day where the chopper could land and to signal the pilot as to our whereabouts we put all our remaining large cans of blaze orange Krylon spray paint in a pile, popped a small hole in the bottom of one, lit it with a match so the jet of fire played over the rest of the cans and stood back. The resulting fire ball could be seen for miles which got the attention of the pilot as he looked for us.