American advisors training Vietnamese on the Garand and M1A1. No date but early war possibly MAAG era.
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American advisors training Vietnamese on the Garand and M1A1. No date but early war possibly MAAG era.
Couple of Thompsons in the mix.
There ought to be, they made enough of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
For some reason I get the thought that they were called the "Chicago piano" or "Chicago organ" after it's ties to Al Capone and the "Mobs"
Was the name slang for the M1921...which was used by gangland fighters in Chicago. The rest all came after that...Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
Actually, it was called the "Chicago Typewriter".
That was another...I just didn't bother mentioning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapper740
The photo is from the early days of Viet Nam, some of these photos show the early XM16 with waffle magazines
The Chicago Gangsters only had the 20 magazine, 50rd drum and 100 rd drum available for the 1921 TSMG.
There was a 18rd magazine available for shot cartridges but seldom used
Was there a reason they both appear to be minus the Cutts compensator.
Yes Cinders. The Thompson 1928A1 was much more labor intensive to manufacture with its cooling fins on the barrel and Cutts Compensator than the M1A1. Further, it's reciprocating cocking handle on top of the receiver was distracting from the sights. The M1A1 was lighter, cheaper to build, and had the cocking handle moved to the side of the receiver.Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
Exactly, the M1 and later M1A1 were completely different guns. Although some parts would interchange, many were different. Maybe 50% interchangeability... The Cutts was a whole different idea and I never found an issue with muzzle rise in either of them on auto. Shot them both lots...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapper740
From what I know and have seen, all Model 1928A1 TSMGs had the Cutts compensator as received from the factory
All Thompson M1 and M1A1 TSMGs were manufactured without the Cutts .
All trigger housings will inter-change among these models example: you can install a 1928A1 lower trigger
housing on a M1A1 upper,
The M1 Thompson with the same firing pin design as the Model 1928A1, had the fastest rate of fire of the three models listed
above. Rather than attempts to slow it down (larger cocking handle or other devices) the US Govt issued a waiver and producton
continued.
The Thompson double stacked magazine is very easy to load by hand to capacity as compared to the M3 or STEN without a tool
1928A1s had later production cuts that included plain cocking knob and no cooling fins or Cutts Comp. The barrels would interchange and front tenon so M1s and earlier could use forestock or grip. M1 and A1 never had them. The original M1 had a simple rear sight but susceptible to damage so the protective ears came in. The floating firing pin went out according to some with the first thousand M1s made. I had one... Yes, the trigger parts would interchange but the later parts were simplified with sticks instead of paddles. The extractors were the same but ejectors different and of course bolts. The lowers would slide on but were not dressed for the opposite model of uppers. The butts wouldn't interchange but the grip would. Like I said, about 50%. The mags were great...I liked my drum for the '28. Mine was a '28 not an A1 and my M1 was not an A1. No pics of my M1...
Jim. Looks like a Savage 1928, the best after the 1921
Field repair to stock, rare to find a stock without the stock bolt
Yes, a 1928 made by Savage apparently on the Colt machining according to an old policeman from Oregon and Chicago that examined it. The stock was a Remington(with anchor) with no screws but had been split lengthwise and badly repaired. This fixed it. The later ones came with that horrible strengthening bolt, yes... This was a vet bringback from Italy and had settled just a couple hours north of me.