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I have been looking at a "CMP Select Grade" with older CMP shipping papers (no date visable in pic of papers). I have never heard of a CMP Select Grade, can anyone tell me what a select grade is? I am assuming it is better than a service grade?:dunno:
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Originally Posted by billsm1
M1 Garand, Springfield Special
Due to heavy demand ,please allow 180 days for delivery.
M1 Garand Springfield Armory receiver. New production stock and handguard set with CMP cartouche, a new production barrel and new leather sling. Receiver and most other parts are refinished USGI, but some parts may be new manufacture.
Vos Parate, the select grade billsm1 is talking about is from about 10 years ago, not the new special grade. I believe it had a TE of less than 2. It was suppose to be better.
At one time a Service Grade, Select Grade and Collector Grade were offered. At that time there were no Field or Rack grades offered. When you ordered you could receive a WRA, S.A. HRA or a IHC. (luck of the draw)
'Twas 20% juicier! (select)
Bob
The good old days. No whining about people not getting exactly what they asked for, prices were lower...all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devil Dog
Niner had it right. It was basically a service grade with the guarantee of a TE of at least 2. The price was $550,a fifty dollar premium . My 2,516 came with a 2-65 SA barrel. It was ordered in Feb. '99,I received it in Jan. 2001.
[SIZE="2"]The older select grades were all USGI,basically mint condition like new rebuilds. It might be my failing memory but I recall they cost $750,not $550,at least when I ordered one. I had one on order but it got cancelled as it was right at the time they ran out and stopped selling that option. If you have the chance to buy one and it has'nt been abused or shot out you should get a very nice rifle,more desirable than the current select grade IMHO./SIZE]
I guess I'm wrong. Just talked to a buddy of mine that also got an older select grade and he "gently" reminded me it was the collector grades that used to be $750,not the selects.My mistake,I do remember the $750 collector grades,obviously the select would not have cost the same.:banghead:
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Originally Posted by niner
I guess that's why the recent select grades were renamed specials. I recall some confusion on the names.
I've only been a member for two years.
Back in the good ol' DCM days you had no choice whatsoever. You got what you got. The only guarantee was that it was a genuine M1 Garand rifle in shootable shape. Of course they were infinitely cheaper. I paid $121.96 for the whole enchilada, that was 26 years ago this month that it arrived after a 15-18 month wait but it was worth the wait.
I got one of the "old" selects. It was originally stated it would have very little wear on the barrel, have better metal and wood. As time went on the better ones went out the door and the wear was the only thing you were sure to get. Mine was one of the last ones. It had UGLY wood. Strips of wood had been glassed onto the bottom so the trigger group would lock up...illegal for CMP Garand. They replaced the stock for me. I still haven't shot it and some day I think I'll buy some new (matching) wood for it, have some of the metal refinished, and get it out on the range.
I have been very lucky with the "luck of the draw" on my other Garands.
Here's the 1998 CMP offerings with descriptions....
The CMP Board of Directors has established three grades of M1 Garands and set prices for each as follows:
Service Grade Less Wood - $275.00 - Serviceable; less stock and hand guards.
Service Grade - $400.00 - Serviceable; no guarantee of matching parts, wood shows normal wear, finish ranges from slightly worn to better, light pitting, wood in good condition, throat erosion does not exceed 5.
Select Grade - $550.00 - Rifle is in excellent condition; 2 or less on bore gauge, not necessarily original, mixed parts, good wood, excellent finish.
Collector's Grade - $750.00 - Rifle is complete and substantially original as shipped from manufacturer. Rifle is probably not new and may not even be in excellent condition. Five (5) or less on bore gauge. A comprehensive but not necessarily complete list of such rifles would include:
Any totally complete M1 Garand of any of the four manufacturers, with all of the original parts and the appropriate inspector's cartouche on the stock. Rifle would be from any era. Rifle would be in decent condition.
Any pre-W.W.II Springfield Armory rifle with essentially all of the original parts (may have some minor parts that need replacing, but they would be minor and would not detract from the overall value of the rifle).
Any Winchester "dash-13s" (1,6XX,XXX serial number range)
Any of the interesting International Harvester M1s with the original barrels and most if not all of the original parts. Examples include, but are not limited to:
Arrowhead (Christmas Tree) logo on the receiver
Gap lettered logo on receiver (made by Springfield for IHC)
Postage Stamp logo variation of the IHC as made by both Springfield and IHC.
IHC receivers made by Harrington Richardson for IHC.
Any Harrington Richardson receiver having serial number in the 6, XXX,XXX range.
The entire inventory is for sale. Rifle selection will be by luck of the draw only and CMP will fill orders as the rifles become available.
Customers may purchase:
One Service or Select Grade Rifle per year and one Collector Grade Rifle per year.
The good old days......
George in Dallas
My select from back in the day was a mint 5.6 HRA which would be a "collectors" today... sweet deal back then and I lucked out and didn't get a rebuild... :super: