Does anyone know whom the manufacturer of the rubber butt stock pad was?
Any detailed pictures of one out there?
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Does anyone know whom the manufacturer of the rubber butt stock pad was?
Any detailed pictures of one out there?
I do believe they were Hawkins, same as the Long Branch Lightweight
Jostam "Anti-Flinch" wasn't it?
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If you're talking about the 80L rifles, Long Branch appears to have manufactured the pads themselves.
The 80L pads are not Hawkins, nor are they Jostams.
Generally a sure sign of a fake is a Jostam pad.
Interesting. What evidence is there that Long Branch made them?
You don't think Jostam might have made them without markings on request?
No they are constructed totally differently, and is a different type of rubber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Surpmil
They appear to have been fabricated in pieces.
The rear pad section almost seems to have been attached separately - possibly glued on, or cast in stages perhaps (possibly part of a mold for the slashes??).
The rubber appears to have been clear and dyed (presumably) during molding/construction.
Presumably made under license then, since the design was patented by Jostam and the Canadian examples appear identical overall.
Also possible that Jostam had a licensed manufacturer in Canada since in those days a modicum of "protectionism" still prevailed.
I have come to the realization that you must be looking at black and white photos?, because that is the only reason I can think that they could appear identical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Surpmil
I will try to take side by side photos and add them to the thread.
Yes, the vast majority are B&W, but colour is easy to change in manufacture, whereas a patented design not so much. Still, if it was a 1915 patent it might have expired by 194_.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Enfield
Photos would be good, thanks.
Here are some photos of an original "80L8" butt pad. They appear to have been a light beige/tan translucent rubber dyed black. They also appear to have been fabricated or poured in stages perhaps. The colour doesn't really show in the photos.
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Clearly those ribs could only be molded to produce a one-piece product if the two halves of the mold met in the center of the air spaces and the angled ribs. That would mean the mold being split vertically from the top of the butt to the bottom, so to speak.
If molded in one piece those mold lines are perhaps just artifacts of the composite(?) construction of the molds.
If the pad that contacts the shoulder of the shooter was somehow attached to the ribs after molding that would allow the markings we see on the commercial recoil pads like the Jostam to be pulled straight out of the mold as they would have to be to separate cleanly. That method would also allow the use of different colours, markings, pad configurations etc.
Another possibility would be a three piece mold and the line running along the base of the pad would be where the third part of the mold met the two halves the ribs and base were formed in.