http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cals-on-right/
I know this does not mean anyone here.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cals-on-right/
I know this does not mean anyone here.
The pic accompanying the article has a caption that says, click to enlarge. Why woould anyone want to do that?!
The link doesn't work for me. Can someone post a quote?
Vern, I had a lot of trouble getting the link to work too. I assume it is because of too many "Right Wing Extremest" trying to access the article. I'll past part of the article that I was able to copy eralier and email to a friend.
To me this looks like a step in preperation for communism/national socialism. This really smells of Rahm Emanuel.
BELOW is from Washington times.
Federal agency warns of radicals on right
9-page report sent to police
The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias.
A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority.
"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.
The White House has distanced itself from the analysis. When asked for comment on its contents, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said, "The President is focused not on politics but rather taking the steps necessary to protect all Americans from the threat of violence and terrorism regardless of its origins. He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned."
If this sort of crap happened under a republican president, regarding a "radical leftist" organization, you know what would happen - that's right, a Congressional Investigation & hearings! Write to your reps, demand an inquiry, perhaps then the Congress can stay out of trouble and just churn and be indignant for the press.
Looks like a classic distraction technique to me. They won't go after radical leftists and Islamic terrorists because the president wants to "extend the hand of friendship" (and bow to) those people. So, in order to pretend to be "doing something" he invents a serious right-wing threat, a nice "evil" bogey man he can claim to defeat to show he is protecting the people.
Of course, there is just enough truth there to be somewhat reasonable. There are right-wing nuts, and they could be dangerous, but I don't recall any of them killing American troops in Asia or destroying the WTC.
Jim
Ron Paul-Bob Barr and ex GI's
Did John Kerry make their list, he was a dis-gruntled Vet? oh i guess he must be ok :dunno: Semper Fi Al
Who will guard the guardians?
I am struck by the fact our government fears US.The good guys.
By Judge Andrew Napolitano
FOX News Senior Judicial Analyst
Homeland Security Warns of Rise in Right-Wing Extremism
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) report entitled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment”, dated April 7, 2009, which I have read, is apparently an unclassified summary of a larger classified report.
1. The summary contains few proper names, has no footnotes of any significance, lists very few sources, and is drafted with a prejudice against anyone who criticizes the role of the federal government in our lives today. It lumps together in its definition of “rightwing extremism” hate groups, anti-government groups, and single issue groups “such as opposition to abortion or immigration.”
My guess is that the sentiments revealed in the report I read are the tip of an iceberg that the DHS would prefer to keep submerged until it needs to reveal it. This iceberg is the heavy-hand of government; a government with large and awful eyes, in whose heart there is no love for freedom, and on whose face there is no smile.
2. The document itself cautions the reader that the document is “not to be released to the public, the media, or other personnel who do not have a valid need-to-know without prior approval” of the DHS. The document refers to itself as one of a series of intelligence assessments intended to “deter, prevent, preempt, or respond to terrorist attacks against the United States.”
3. The thrust of this report is that in the present environment of economic instability, returning military veterans, those who fear of the loss of Second Amendment-protected rights, those threatened by an African-American president, and those who fear “Jewish ‘financial elites’” could all be a fertile breeding ground for groups whose power and ideas the government hates and fears. The document is essentially a warning for DHS and FBI officials to be on the look-out for rootless persons looking for the comfort of groups as they may be a danger to American security.
4. The summary (unclassified) document is terrifying. One can only imagine what is contained in the classified version. This document runs directly counter to numerous U.S. Supreme decisions prohibiting the government from engaging in any activities that could serve to chill the exercise of expressive liberties. Liberties are chilled, in constitutional parlance, when people are afraid to express themselves for fear of government omnipresence, monitoring, or reprisals. The document also informs the reader that Big Brother is watching both public and private behavior.
5. The whole purpose of the First Amendment is to guarantee open, broad, robust debate on the policies and personnel of the government. The First Amendment presumes that individuals — NOT THE GOVERNMENT — are free to choose what they believe and espouse, what they read and say, and with whom they associate in public and in private. The writers of this abominable report are particularly concerned with the expression of opinions that might be used to fuel ideas that challenge federal authority or favor state and local government over the federal government. Unfortunately, legislation passed during the past eight years gives the DHS and the FBI the tools to monitor everything from a telephone conversation to the keystrokes used on a personal computer without a warrant issued by a federal judge.
6. My guess is that the sentiments revealed in the report I read are the tip of an iceberg that the DHS would prefer to keep submerged until it needs to reveal it. This iceberg is the heavy-hand of government; a government with large and awful eyes, in whose heart there is no love for freedom, and on whose face there is no smile.
The more info we get the wose the document looks. We should demand that the original document be relaeased to the public.
Also whoever wrote this document and anyone who OK'd distribution should be terminated.
Homeland Security spokeswoman Sara Kuban said the report is one in an ongoing series of assessments by the department to "facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the U.S."
That's what they're calling it now? That same "problem" arose the last time we had a leftist in office. It's been 8 years since they demonized the word 'militia' in the media. Watch for a new buzzword on a network near you.
I posted this on another thread but thought it pertains here also. The beginning of government censorship in the US.
Read this report on the fox News site and especially read what Herb London, president of the Hudson Institute, a Washington-based think tank, says at the end,
Chorus of Protest Grows Over Report Warning of Right Wing Radicalization - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
Chorus of Protest Grows Over Report Warning of Right Wing Radicalization - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
This is the extent of the HSA "report" Not quite the crap that the Anerican Legion is in a huffy. Looks like the tin foil brigade has invaded the legion in hopes of helping with fund raising.
The Homeland Security assessment specifically says that "rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat."
Jerry Newberry, director of communications for the Veterans of Foreign Wars, said the vast majority of veterans are patriotic citizens who would not join anti-government militias.
"As far as our military members go, I think that the military is a melting pot of society. So you might get a few, a fractional few, who are going to be attracted by militia groups and other right-wing extremists," he said.
"We have to remember that the people serving in our military are volunteers, they do it because they love their country, and they believe in what our country stands for," he said. "They spent their time in the military defending our Constitution, so the vast majority of them would be repulsed by the hate groups discussed in this report."
The Homeland Security report cited a 2008 FBI report that noted that a small number of returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have joined extremist groups.
The FBI report said that from October 2001 through May 2008 "a minuscule" number of veterans, 203 out of 23,000, had joined groups such as the Ku Klux Klan, Aryan Nations, the National Socialist Movement, the Creativity Movement, the National Alliance and some skinhead groups.
"Although the white supremacist movement is of concern to the FBI, our assessment shows that only a very small number of people with prior military experience may have an affiliation with supremacist groups," FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said Monday when asked about the FBI report.
A 2006 report from the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization that monitors white supremacists like the Klan, said that white-power groups had an interest in the kind of training the military provides.
Mark Potok, director of the center's intelligence project, said the Homeland Security report "confirms that white supremacists are interested in the military. There is some concern, and there should be, about returning veterans, one need only think of the example of Timothy McVeigh, who was in the first Iraq war."
Mr. Potok added that he was generally pleased with the report.
"Basically, the report tracks fairly closely with what we have been saying for some time now. They mention us a couple of times, though not by name," he said.
Stock Up! Their Comming!
The same concern was expressed after WWII. They shut down the OSS and tried to muster out as many "special forces" as they could. More pressing needs changed that (Cold War, Korea).Quote:
Originally Posted by thepriapus
Homeland Security also did a report on radical liberalism.
I suppose the black Panthers, Acorn, gang bangers and others of that ilk are NOT interested?
Isn't that where the new administration is getting appointees?Quote:
Originally Posted by John Sukey
There is a contradiction in how the DHS writes about leftwing extremism and rightwing extremism.
The report “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.” has this statement on page 7 of the report: “DHS/I&A assesses that lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent rightwing extremist ideology ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS DOMESTIC TERRORISM THREAT in the United States (emphasis added).”
Contrast those comments to the comments in the earlier report (Leftwing Extremists Likely to Increase Use of Cyber Attacks over the Coming Decade, January 2009) on leftwing extremism (page 3): “DHS/I&A assesses that cyber attacks are attractive options to leftwing extremists who view attacks on economic targets as aligning with THEIR NONVIOLENT, “NO-HARM” DOCTRINE and tactic of “direct action” (emphasis added).”
To put it another way, as both reports state, rightwing extremism is violent and anti-government (greatest threat), while leftwing extremism is non-violent and anti-corporation (cyber attacks against businesses most likely).
This is without evidence that any such rightwing extremism threat even exists (which the report acknowledges); yet we know that leftwing extremists, such at the ELF (Earth Liberation Front), have actively conducted terrorist activities (bombings and arson, I believe, are VIOLENT operations) over the past 10 years.
Also, the claim that the report on rightwing extremism is a holdover from the Bush administration is belied by this entry on page 3: "A recent example of the potential violence associated with a rise in rightwing extremism may be found in the shooting deaths of three police officers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on 4 April 2009." This is in a report dated 7 April 2009.
Hey Sucky dumbo, this Bud's for you
This isn't a problem and these types of EXTREMISTS and their potential recruit profile has always been under scrutiny. Are Left-wing extremists also under watch? YES!
In Jan the Obama Admin released the same type of report on....The extreme left and their possible tactics.
Quote:
DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) judges that a number of
emerging trends point to leftwing extremists maturing and expanding their cyber attack capabilities over the next decade with the aim of attacking targets in the United States.
Read the report for yourself...
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/wp...nuary-2009.pdf
Same office as the current report comes from.
Do you honestly think this report outlines every single group/category DHS is watching? They watch everyone, this report just happened to be leaked, it is meant for those who understand what it is and what it is for, not public consumption.
McVeigh and Rudolph and other lesser knowns are the EXACT reason these "profiles" exist. If it were to happen again, the first question/complaint out of everyone's mouth would be "why weren't we monitoring these groups and their prospective targets, we know how they operate. Obama knows this and did nothing to stop it...etc"
We do need to monitor and watch out for any EXTREMIST person/group. And yes they do exist in the military, NRA, churches...
Tmothy McVeigh use more knowledge gleaned from the public school system, and Sesame Street than any military training to become the bomber in Oklahoma city. He learned to read, write, and drive a van without the military.To say that his military experiences are a contributing factor in his actions is rediculous. I'm sure he also went to vacation bible school as a child too making Christians part of this right wing terrorist machine.
The direction of HLS toward US citizens, their religion, clubs or groups for political posturing is a missuse of government power. The open ended argument that these profiles could become domestic terrorists is silly. They could also become anything else like President of the United States.
We should also scrutinize college professors as potential dangers. Their ranks have produced the Una bomber, Bill Ayrers and Bernadine Dorn.
Background profiling has a legitimate place in fighting crime and terrorism but this report makes every conservative a suspect for political expedience. That is why it is out.
Big difference between the "left" report and the "Right" report.
The Rightwing report grouped basically all of us military war vet, conservatives, and any other people concerned about US sovereignty as "potential terrorists"
The Left wing report only specified a few specific groups, and basically called them "non-violent"
Maybe you should learn to compare and contrast before calling someone "Dumbo"
Dan