Here are the 1937 S/27 K98 and the 1944 Long Branch N04 mk1*
The K98 cleaned up really nice thanks to your advice. Thats about as light as it would go without resorting to sanding and ruining the stamps on the stock.
The Long Branch doesn't look much different, but under that wood.. it was a cosmoline nightmare.
Needless to say I am extremely pleased with them.