*Modèle 1936 MAS Survey ... Updated: 01-29-2009*
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Patrick
02-21-2009 ... New Serial Numbers
G 11X October 1937
G 2494 February 1938 /Type 1 band & receiver ["S" at 3 o'clock in cartouche]i.e.,[S@3o'clock]
G 6241 March 1938 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,C, stamps/ Barrel top-FULL SERIAL NUMBER, "E" & ["G" in shield] / Bottom flat-"RG" MAS 1937 [S@3o'clock]
G 11803 June 1938 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,C, stamps/ Barrel top-"E" & ["G" in shield] / Bottom flat-"RG" MAS 1938
G 12806 June 1938 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,C, stamps / Barrel top-"E" & ["G" in shield] / Bottom flat-"RG" MAS 1938
G 167XX September 1938
G 325XX February 1939
G 34140 Unknown /Type 1 receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" / Bottom flat-"G" MAT 1937
G 347XX February 1939
G 35223 February 1939
G 38551 February 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps /"LK5" MARKED stock / Barrel flat-MAT 1938
G 386XX February 1939
G 38867 February 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel flat-"C" MAT 1938
G 405XX Unknown 1939 /"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel flat-MAT 1938
G 40766 March 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" / Barrel flat "C" MAT 1938
G 42XXX March 1939
G 42570 March 1939 /Type 1 band & Type 2 MODIFIED receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" / Barrel flat "A" MAT 1937 / [Grip Flat unmarked/unnumbered]
G 45078 April 1939
G 453XX April 1939
G 512XX May 1939 /Type 1 band / Barrel flat-MAT 1938
G 56624 June 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps /
G 57353 Unknown /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" / Bottom flat-"C" MAT 1938
G 61474 June 1939
G 63627 June 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" / Bottom flat-"C" MAT 1938
G 67719 July 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver / Barrel flat-"C" MAT 1938
G 6913X July 1939 /Type 1 receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps
G 76328 Unknown 1939
G 77597 Unknown 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel flat-"LY" SACM 1938
G 78767 August 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver
G 80708 September 1939 / Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps /"LK5" MARKED stock
G 85722 September 1939 /Type 1 band & Type 2 MODIFIED receiver
G 91765 October 1939 /Type 1 band & Type 2 MODIFIED receiver
G 92078 October 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Bolt stem-UNPREFIXED #414
G 95914 October 1939 /Type 1 band & Type 2 MODIFIED receiver [Grip Flat marked-"18"/NO "LK" on reworked stock][S@3o'clock]
G 97504 October 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" & ["G" in circle] / Barrel flat-"AS" MAS 1939
G 98738 October 1939
G 98904 Unknown 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps
H 4720 Unknown 1939 /Type 1 band & Type 2 MODIFIED receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" & ["G" in circle] / Barrel flat-"A" MAS 1939
H 8872 December 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" & ["G" in circle] / Barrel flat-"A" MAS 1939
H 117XX December 1939-"E",L,M,G, proof
H 12757 December 1939 /Type 2 MODIFIED receiver / "LK5" MARKED stock / [Grip Flat marked-"41", 5mm case][S@3o'clock]
H 1397X December 1939
H 17066 December 1939 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps
H 243XX January 1940
H 29251 Unknown 1940
H 33057 January 1940 /Type 1 band & Type 2 MODIFIED receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / "LK5" MARKED stock / Barrel top-"E" / Bottom flat-"C" MAT 1937 / [Grip Flat marked-"11", 5mm case]
H 34020 January 1940 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" & ["G" in circle] / Barrel flat-"AS" MAS 1939
H 36706 unknown /Type 1 band & Type 2 MODIFIED receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / "LK5" MARKED stock [Grip Flat marked-"10", in 5mm case]
H 38566 February 1940
H 45671 February 1940 /Type 1 band & receiver
H 49756 February 1940 /Type 1 band & receiver
H 62535 March 1940 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M, CIRCLE "C", stamps / Barrel top-"E" / Bottom flat-"C" MAT 1939
H 63518 March 1940 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M, CIRCLE "C", stamps
H 637XX March 1940
H 6399X March 1940
H 72756 Unknown / Type 1 receiver
H 73333 April 1940 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" ["G" in circle] / Bottom flat-"A" MAS 1939
H 74410 April 1940 /Type 2 MODIFIED receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / "LK5" MARKED stock / Barrel top-"E" / Bottom flat-"A" MAT 1939 / [Grip Flat marked-"2", 6mm case]
H 74991 Unknown 1940 / Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Bottom flat-"RG" MAS 1940
H 753XX April 1940
H 77116 April 1940 / Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" ["G" in circle] / Bottom flat-"RG" MAS 1940
H 79037 April 1940
H 80324 Unknown 1940 / Type 1 band & Type 2 MODIFIED receiver-"E",L,M,(?), stamps / "LK(?)" MARKED stock / [Grip Flat marked-"31", 5mm case]
H 80671 April 1940
H 82477 April 1940
H 8254X April 1940
H 82932 April 1940 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps
H 91525 Unknown 1940 / Barrel flat-MAT 1940
H 963XX April 1940
H 96738 MAY 1940 /Type 1 band & receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / PERHAPS a DELAYED ACCEPTANCE rifle, as the J 6187 would otherwise be antecedent
J 3823 May 1940
J 3882 May 1940 / Type 1 band & Type 2 FACTORY receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps
J 6187 April 1940 [?] Out of sequence/ see H 96738 & J 3823/3882, above.
J 8222 May 1940 / Type 2 FACTORY receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps
J 8254 May 1940
J 18920 May 1940 /Type 1 band & Type 2 FACTORY receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / "LK5" MARKED stock
J 20233 June 1940
J 21044 Unknown /Type 1 band & Type 2 Factory receiver-"E",L,M,G, stamps / Barrel top-"E" ["G" in circle] / Barrel bottom flats-"A" MAS 1940
K 2043 Unknown 1940 /Type 2 Factory receiver-"E",L,M,"MF", stamps
K 2502 May 1940
K 3184 Unknown 1940 /-"E",L,M,"MF", stamps [?BEECH STOCK appears to have original Serial Number?]
K 3462 Unknown / Barrel Bottom flat-"RG" MAS 1940
K 7227 June 1940 /"MF" Mfg./"E"
K 11569 June 1940 /"MF" Mfg.
K 12185 June 1940 /"MF" Mfg./"E",L,M, stamps
K 13089 June 1940 /Type 1 band & Type 2 FACTORY receiver-"E",L,M,"MF" stamps / Barrel bottom flat-"A" MF 1940
K 22014 Unknown /Type 2 FACTORY reveiver-"E",L,M,"MF" stamps/Type 1 sight base
K 25980 June 1940 /Type 3a band & Type 2 receiver / Barrel bottom flat-"A" MAT 1940
L 2421 Unknown /Type 2 receiver / Barrel Bottom flat-"C" MAT 1940
L 35XX June 1940
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The "MYSTERY" rifles are eccentric to serial-production. They are divided only upon the basis of whether they have been stamped with an un-prefix number, or are sterile/devoid of any numbers. The "Sterile" examples uniquely exhibit improper headspace. (Three of the six reported examples will not close on "GO") Aside from this defect, both "Numbered" and "Sterile" units are possessed of the following anomalies:
1] They are unissued; perhaps unfired.
2] They are a collection of near-Armistice parts, some 'pickled'/acid-etched and not 'stoved'/blackened; some appearing to have been defective/rejected parts.
3] The quality of assemblage is not as consistent, nor to the standard of serial-production examples.
4] The bayonets are from earlier rifles, or replacements of a latter-day.
5] None are import marked.
6] Some have incorrect sight-leafs, and will not shoot to point of aim.
7] They all have 'Type 2' factory receivers, some of the later type.
8] Some have a 'sticky' bolt-cap, which requires detenting the striker, and the use of a gripping tool, for removal.
MYSTERY STERILE:
[A] Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band /Type 1 rear sight / Barrel top-"E" & ["G" in circle] / Bottom barrel flat-"RG" MAS 1939 / Receiver left flat marked "MAS Mle 1936" on partially milled surface [banner milled]
[b] Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 1 band /Type 1 rear sight / UN-PREFIXED #4039 on bolt-stem /
[C] Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band /Type 1 rear sight /
[D] Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band /Type 1 rear sight / Barrel top-"E" / Bottom barrel flat-"A" MAT 1940
[E] Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band /Type 1 rear sight / Barrel top-"E" / Bottom barrel flat-"C" MAT 1940
[F] Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 1 band /Type 1 rear sight
Exclusive to the "Numbered" examples:
1] The font of the numbering to very different than that which is used upon the serialized rifles.
2] The bolt-stems, when marked, are numbered upon the outboard side.
MYSTERY NUMBERED
# 34 Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 1 band /Type 1 rear sight / Barrel top-"E" ["G" in circle] / Bottom barrel flat-"RG" MAS 1940 [Outboard bolt-stem NUMBERED TO RECEIVER]
# 171 Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 1 band /Type 1 rear sight
# 282 Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band /Type 1 rear sight / Barrel top-"E" / Bottom barrel flat-"A" MAT 1940
# 320 Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band
# 360 Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band /Type 1 rear sight / Barrel top-"E" ["G" in circle] / Bottom barrel flat-"A" MAS 1940 [Barreled-receiver was never "Stoved"] Outboard bolt-stem NUMBERED TO RECEIVER
# 420 Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band /Type 1 rear sight / Bottom barrel flat-"C" MAT 1940 [Barreled-receiver & Bolt were never "stoved"] Outboard bolt-stem NUMBERED TO RECEIVER
# 432 Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band /Type 1 rear sight / Barrel top-"?" / Bottom barrel flat-"A" MAT 1940 [Outboard bolt-stem NUMBERED TO RECEIVER. Non-Matching die set used for the "2"]
# 486 Unknown /Type 2 receiver & Type 2 band /Type 1 rear sight / Barrel top-"E" ["G" in circle] / Bottom barrel flat-"RG" MAS 1940 [Outboard bolt-stem NUMBERED TO RECEIVER]
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TIR REDUIT .22 calibre, full size MAS 1936 training rifle, made for and accepted by the Vichy military. By all indications this production run appears to be a minor footnote, with 1,000 units being fabricated per month, at least during the first four months. But it is the earliest documented series to incorporate all of the design changes that make the post-Liberation "script prefix" blocks unique from the pre-June 25, 1940 Armastice, MAS 36s.
Tir reduit 5.5 L:
# 1432 September 1941 /Type 2 receiver, rear sight assembly & magazine followed /Type 2 upper band [Button cross-pin doubler]
# 2721 October 1941
# 3362 November 1941 / Type 2 rear sight assembly / [S@3o'clock]
# 3472 November 1941 /Type 2 receiver, rear sight assembly & magazine follower /Type 2 upper band /Type 1 bayonet with two (2) digit serial number on end cap. [The Barrel flat is sterile/not marked in any way]
# 4439 December 1941 /Type 2 receiver & rear sight assembly /Type 2 upper band
# 14046 Unknown /Type 2 receiver, rear sight assembly & magazine follower /Type 2 upper band
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K 31567 Unknown /1940 barrel
K 319XX October 1944 /1940 barrel/Type 2 rear sight base/ Type 1 sight leaf & slider
K 32430 Unknown /Type 2 MODIFIED rear sight base
K 45054 Unknown /MAS 1940 barrel
K 60166 Unknown /"A" MAS 1940 barrel
K 61223 Unknown / C.R.39 receiver
K 63785 Unknown (1944?) /"A" MAS 1940 barrel/Type 2 MODIFIED rear base & sight/Type 2 lower band/Walnut stocks/[Pictures below by '28 mosin']
K 94536 Unknown (1945?) /Type 2 receiver/"I(?)-Y" MAS 1945
L 27313 Unknown / Barrel bottom flat-"AS" MAS 1945
L 65371 Unknown / 1945 barrel
L 65693 Unknown 1945 /Type 2 receiver / Type 2 rear sight / Walnut stock
L 72943 Unknown /Type 2 receiver / MAT 1945 barrel / Type 2 rear sight
L 910XX Unknown 1945 /Type 2 receiver / 1945 barrel
M 7977 Unknown 1945 /
M 22001 Unknown / Matching Script S/N on Type 2 (stamped) mag plate & triggerguard
M 33001 February [year not discernable] Type 1 mag plate / Type 2 triggerguard / Walnut stock
M 435XX March [year not discernable]
M 61474 Unknown / 1946 barrel
M 79798 June 1946 / Walnut stock / Matching Script S/N on Type 2 (stamped) mag plate & triggerguard
M 87195 July 1946 / [S@3o'clock]
M 88590 July 1946 / [S@3o'clock]
N 23738 December 1946 /Type 3 lower band / Stamped triggerguard / beech stocks / 1946 barrel / black enamel finish
N 55448 September 1947 /Type 4 band / Stamped mag plate & triggerguard / Beech stocks
P 435XX Unknown / Barrel flat-"AS" MAT 1949
Q 306X April 1950
Q 9263 Unknown / 'LG 48' Configured
Q 20040 Unknown / 'LG 48' Configured
Q 59326 Unknown 1951 / Barrel-MAS 1951 / "E",B,G, / Beech stock
Q 73579 Unknown
FH 12811 July 1952
FH 600XX February 1953 / 'LG 48' Configured
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MAS Mle 1936 C.R.39 Carbine
Cursive/Script "F" Series:
F 15XX Unknown / Type 1 band / Walnut fore-stocks / 'bare' aluminum butt-stock / Black enamel finish /
F 19XX Unknown / Type 1 band / Barrel dated 1940 / Walnut fore-stock / 'bare' aluminum butt-stock / Black enamel finish / fabric sling
F 19XX Unknown / Type 1 band / Beech fore-stocks / 'bare' aluminum butt-stock / Black enamel finish / fabric sling
F 54XX Unknown / (Receiver only) / Parkerized (?)
F 194XX Unknown / Type 1 band / Beech fore-stock / 'bare' aluminum butt-stock / Blued finish (?)
Roman/Latin block-font "F" Series:
F 305XX Unknown / Type 3 band / Beech fore-stock / 'green rubber' coated butt-stock / Barrel-flats "CS" MAS 1952 / Parkerized finish / leather sling
F 32947 Unknown / Bare-stock / Kit assemblage
F 338XX Unknown / Type 3 band / Beech fore-stock / 'green rubber' coated butt-stock / vertical serial number / Parkerized finish / leather sling
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MAS Mle 1936-51
F 115XX Unknown 1953
F 20033 November 1953 / Beech stock
F 22126 Unknown 1953
F 22705 January 1954 / Beech stock
F 600XX October 1956 / 1963 barrel / Walnut stocks [?]
F 62568 July 1955
F 733XX December 1955 / Beech stocks
F 75453 January 1956 / Beech stocks
F 92681 July 1956 / "E",B,G, / Beech stocks
F 95172 September 1956 / Beech stocks
F 99218 October 1956 / Walnut stocks [?]
G 4141 Unknown 1957 / Beech stocks
G 16469 August 1957 / Beech stocks
G 19051 October 1957
G 20781 October 1957
G 20782 October 1957
G 24213 August 1957 / Beech stocks
G 27027 Unknown 1958 / Beech stocks
G 32453 April 1958 / Beech stocks
G 42075 September 1958 / "E" / Beech stocks