Real S'G' Safety ??

[kro]

Just looking at this thread and the OP's picture of the S'G' safety that was said to be a reproduction. I thought it looked real. Does anyone have a picture of a known real E-S'G' safety?

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[rcycles45]

Just looking at this thread and the OP's picture of the S'G' safety that was said to be a reproduction. I thought it looked real. Does anyone have a picture of a known real E-S'G' safety?

Kro may be onto something . I dug around and found 2 of these safeties that I would post but cant do it . If someone can post I could email of text pictures to you . I think I was confusing the prime marks on the flip sight with the prime marks on the safety , prime marks on flip sights are straight verticle and on the E-S'G' safeties they are slanted to the right . So this safety looks legit after looking at the examples I have . ..

[USGI]

That LC lot number should be mid to late 1952. I'd like to see more pics, too! - Bob

[painter777]

Charlie,
I can put the GB auction up with all the pictures.
Described as varnished, but I believe they used a coat of Shellac.
I scatter crates, ammo cans, lockers and even a couple land mine crates among my displays..... but really do forget what is where when I store things in them.
Wife laughed at me when I opened it. Asked what was in it. I replied it's a empty box.



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Cheers

[Charlie303]

Thanks for the pic, and the link.

What struck me about your crate was that it's got exactly the same screw closures as a Greek HXP .303 crate I have. The Greeks may have recycled old US boxes.

I lose things all the time now. I'm afraid it's a sign of age and having far too much 'stuff'

Cheers!

Charlie

[painter777]

This S'G' I'm watching/thinking about on GB (with the in question safety: (E-S'G')
Has a odd looking Barrel Band. I know these were used on some make of commercial Carbine......... But don't recall who it was that used them.
Any thoughts of which Company used these ?
I'm assuming it isn't a cut down Type III band since it isn't marked any where.

BTW... It's bid just over $1K with just under 24 hrs as I type this.
S'G' 3,6 mil, Type II Hi-wood stock with boxed S'G' and CC, With the large RSG letters in slingwell.
Inland 1-44 barrel. No Import stampings or any mention/sight of Rebuild/Depot/Armory markings.
Type I rear sight with Block S Flip.
Op slide, Flat bolt, Trigger housing and internals etc all S'G' marked.
S'G' Straight hammer with 22 coil spring. No pictures showing hammer strikes.

I've sent some questions but as of now no replies.



Appreciate Any Thoughts ?

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[Bruce McAskill]

Charlie, S'G' ended production in December 1943. The last Inland barrels were December 1st 1943. Oh and the rear sight does not look to healthy.

[painter777]

I can never keep the dates correct when dealing with IR-IP, S'G' and SG.

Can say I've seen my share of S'G' and SG's with the Dovetail edges peened over instead of Chisel stake.
Also common to see that under the rear sight base on the receiver has been milled too deep on these.

Sure about the rear sight ?
Think its fake ?

[rcycles45]

The Barrel band is wrong , S'g' never used type 2 barrel bands . IBM , Rock-Ola , Inland , NPM , Winchester , used type 2 barrel bands towards the middle to end of production.

The Square S rear sight is USGI but I don't recall ever seeing one on a S'G' , you would be more likely to see a W-S'G' , B-SG or RG-SG at this serial number range .


Nice Highwood S'G' stock ….

[painter777]

The Square S rear sight is USGI but I don't recall ever seeing one on a S'G' , you would be more likely to see a W-S'G' , B-SG or RG-SG at this serial number range .

Now that Kro has asked about this carbines Safety markings, I've started looking it over again....... But looking the Rear sight over again.

As Rcycles45 stated above.... You didn't see S'G' carbines with a Sq S marked flip sight.... Which this one is clearly wearing.
But now that I look at the Right side base I can see a Round S below the pin.
When picture is blown up I believe I can see a letter in front of the S ...... Maybe a B or R ?
Can't see anything after the Possible B or R except the S.

Square S picture here:


Possible B or R and Round S Pictured here:


If you go to this link and are signed in look at picture #11, by Hovering over it you'll get a magnified view of the rear sights right side.
To see it you'll have to look at it magnified.
Can anyone else see the Round S under the pin? And a Possible B or R in front of it?

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