PH Sight Repair

[harry mac]

I just did a search on here for tips on where to get my 2 PH sights repaired in UK, and the concensus of opinion seemed to be Fultons of Bisley. I've just pinged them an e-mail, but I know they're closed for their Christmas break until the New Year. The posts in the threads I searched were all a few years old, so, has anyone on here had recent experience of getting sights repaired/serviced?
I know Fred in the NRA range office used to do repairs, but last I heard he had retired (truth or rumour? I don't know).
Both sights require replacement elevation screws and the associated springs and balls.

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[Peter Laidler]

ONLY Fultons in my opinion unless someone has access to the spares that Fultons have. As for spares.......... they are a total nightmare - as are their screw threads. I think Whitworth designed the screw lathe just to simplify P-H sight manufacture. The balls and springs are readily available from decent model making suppliers. Even P-H wouldn't supply spares, even to the trade, preferring to keep the repairs in-house and VERY expensive that they skirted around in their carefully worded replies to letters sent to them!

[harry mac]

Thanks Peter. I can't see Fultons being cheap either, but I'll just have to "suck the mop" and pay the price.

[bigduke6]

Both sights require replacement elevation screws and the associated springs and balls.

Harry, I've a box of old PH sights in various states that are for spares but depends on what sights you have ?

[Strangely Brown]

Fred the armourer has left the NRA.........................I couldn't possibly comment further!

And Peter's advice regarding Fulton's is spot on, dependant on the sight they can even upgrade to 1/4 MoA from 1/2 MoA.

[Gil Boyd]

Harry Mac,

Bill Smallwood ex PH engineer, is very informative on such matters, who now works part time for Norman Clark Gunsmiths. It could pay to give him a ring there for some up to date advice, you never know

[harry mac]

Thanks chaps. Looks like I'll be firing off an e-mail to Mr Clarke in Rugby as well.

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Harry, I've a box of old PH sights in various states that are for spares but depends on what sights you have ?

Hi Jeff. The sights I have are a PH5A and a PH5C.

[harry mac]

Fred the armourer has left the NRA.........................I couldn't possibly comment further!

And Peter's advice regarding Fulton's is spot on, dependant on the sight they can even upgrade to 1/4 MoA from 1/2 MoA.

Mick, I don't think my marksmanship is of a standard where a 1/4 MOA one way or the other makes a blind bit of difference (that's me in my Stevie Wonder gigs)

[Strangely Brown]

Mick, I don't think my marksmanship is of a standard where a 1/4 MOA one way or the other makes a blind bit of difference (that's me in my Stevie Wonder gigs)

Ha ha! I truly know where your coming from Harry.

I recently bought another AJ Parker 4/47 which was in 1/4 MoA for a No.4 SR"b" rebuild Fultons are going to do for me.
After it arrived I realised it would be better off on my long range "Geoff Hart" No.4 and the 1/2 MoA sight would be far better for my, "cough" style of shooting on the SR"B" No.4 when its finished.

[Peter Laidler]

After a bit of thought Harry, why don't you have a go at repairing them yourself. Start on a clean white sheet and a flat open tin (try the Fray Bentos chicken curry tin. Good curry and megga useful tins when empty too.....) of cleaning fluid. But I digress, Just carefully strip and degrease using a pair of fine snipe nosed pliers to release the lead screw lock nuts. Then carefully reassemble. The main problem seems to be that the elevation lead screw shears away from the thread that secures the thumb screw part..

On assembly, clamp sight to the side of a machining table and use a DTI to check end float and adjust as necessary. It's a doddle........