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M1 Garand (Guns and Ammo Review)
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11-27-2011 03:44 PM
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Always great to see a video on the M1.
Correction: It was designed by an American, not a Canadian. Mr. Garand's family moved to the USA when he was seven years old. He became an American citizen in 1920. He submitted his first .30 semi-auto design years later. He submitted the patent for the M1 Garand in 1934, which went into mass production in 1936.
An American designed and was responsible for the M1 Garand.
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Always nice to see the Garand on video, but couldn't they have left out the hackneyed "fatal ping" and "Garand thumb" myths?
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In the musical world, user reviews are quite often done by new owners of a product because that's when they've got the drive to create the review. I think I detect this in the gun world as well because quite often the videos contain clues that whoever is doing them is something of a newbie. Perhaps that is operant here?
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So use to hearing "M1 thumb" that "Garand thumb" sounded strange. Thanks for taking the time to post this as anything about the Garand is enjoyed.
Last edited by Joe W; 12-01-2011 at 05:54 PM.
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I suppose if you were the last rifleman on the field of battle the enemy might hear the ping. If that was the case they would just wait for you to run out of ammo. If you are with a squad and they could possibly hear it and charged your position...... well I don't think everyone would be reloading at the same time. Just my thoughts.
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Any of us that have had bullets crack past their ears and anyone that's done fire and movement know this whole "ping" thing's ridiculous. Who would you ask about it? The enemy you captured? It takes about 2.5 seconds to get back in action. See how far you get during fire and movement in that time.
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OK, here we go.
Guys, the "myth" is that the "ping" was a myth.
I've read every book I can on vet's experiences during WWII and the "ping" issue was a real issue.
Now, listen up...it was not necessarily the "ping" when it ejected but he pinging made when it hit rock or ice or rock and ice. There are simply way too many actual accounts written by vets simply to dismiss all this as "myth."
Under certain circumstances, the "ping" was an issue. It was real. It happened. A guy in CQB runs out and the clip ejects and then bounces around on rubble or ice, or both and it is a dead give away. Read that again: under certain circumstances.
I've read MANY accounts by vets who talk about how they would even care spare clips, with strings attached, and throw them out to let them clatter around on rocks and nail the Krauts who poked their heads up at the noise. I have personally spoken to any number of vets who report the same thing.
So, I'll take the words of eye/ear witness reports, any day, over those who did not serve in WWII, who did not use the M1 Garand in WWII and were not involved in the Battle of the Bulge and other battles like it, in other words...people who were not there.
So, those who want to decry/declare all this as myth simply do not know what they are talking about.
It was real. It happened.
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This has been talked to death and neither confrontation nor insistence helps. A thread was recently closed to stop this argument. When a topic is closed to stop an argument, don't simply move your argument to another post. Let it rest.
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